www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5992927760 this is new to me, together with ipswich, central queensland and the new brisbane franchise run by the son of Ross Livermore man id let them all in!

www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5992927760 this is new to me, together with ipswich, central queensland and the new brisbane franchise run by the son of Ross Livermore man id let them all in!

that means we now have 6 different areas bidding for entry into the nrl in 2013!!!

The NRL is now a 200 kg gorilla, flexing his muscles. and heres what the gorilla has to say to AFL and RU : www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... 9,r:13,s:0

The NRL is now a 200 kg gorilla, flexing his muscles. and heres what the gorilla has to say to AFL and RU : www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... 9,r:13,s:0

the link's comes up with something about the Storm looking for a new centre.

Other forums have been a buzz with a possibility of the Second Brisbane team the last two days.

logannrlbid.com cheers, the correct link

logannrlbid.com cheers, the correct link

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The Ipswich bid I'm worried about, associated with one John Ribot

ahh ribot eh?

f**k him

btw im hearing good things about john quayle getting a job on the new IC, despite what the papers say

What I like to see in the next 12 years

2013
Reds and Bears (Seems weird but the Bears need Manly as much as the Manly needs the Bears - Crowdwise)

2015-2018
Sth Brisbane and Ctrl Qld (Ipswich doesn't really have much of a hope as far as I can see)

2022
Christchurch (gives the Warriors a rival and by then I think a premiership would have gone over the ditch)
Sunshine Coast Falcons (would give coverage to most of Qld then with a team on the Gold Coast, two in Brisbane, one on the Sunny Coast,one in Ctrl Qld and Nth Qld)

not much wrong with that.

good to see you want the bears in and recognize what benefits they can bring for manly and the nrl

can you imagine the derby game at either brookie or north sydney oval?

They'd be huge! The same could be said when the Central Coast play Newcastle.

But the Bears should realise just because you cover so much area in the Juniors it won't necessarily mean premiership success (look at Penrith arguable the biggest junior base in the NRL currently and have only won 2 premierships)

Also like to point out I've tried to keep it as fair as possible in my selections of Expansion teams (teams that have ticked the most boxes AFAIC)

they will never bring in two Q'land sides at the same time.


In the ideal world (and leaving the Bears sentiment aside) I'd have:

2013 WA and Brisbane2
2018 NZ2 & CC Bears (or a Sydney relocation)
2023 PNG and Adelaide
2028 CQ or South Queensland

Would just about be it for the next century.

in 95 they did

the bears are a strong club than perth are, sorry but 5000 members and a rich sugar daddy they are the strongest bid

They are the strongest bid in the weakest location. Perth will be worth more in TV $'s than another NSW team, as will a Q'land team. Bears deserve to be in but if any of the three Q'land bids get their act together in time I can see them missing out, sadly. However, I don't think they will as the Q'land bids have left it too late to get everything together. Bears and Reds have been working on their bids for a number of years.

I like the looks of that, and you never know, by 2028, Darwin might has a decent population too.

they are the strongest bid full stop

perth has no sugar daddy, and very few members

bears have everything going for them

central caost has one of the fastest growing populations in australia, has loads of juniors and a great stadium

the reds wish they had half of what the bears had

the bears will be the next team in and theyll drag in perth with it because we need 2 teams for tv

just thank the bears for your entry, their hard work will pay off

up there with your ignorant best Dally.

Stadium Reds 1 Bears 0
Population Reds 1 Bears 0
TV $'s Reds 1 Bears 0
NRL Team support Reds 1 Bears 0
Avg attendance last 3 years Reds 1 Bears 1
National profile for game Reds 1 Bears 0
Further dilution of NSW corporate $'s Reds 1 Bears 0

Only area Bears are stronger is memberships (though we already have over 2000 and we only launched them end of last year)
Sugar Daddy (though he is hardly throwing huge sums to buy them)
Jnrs (not that you can credit the Bears for that)

Reds will be in definate, Bears probably but only because Brisbane2 won't be ready.

better stadium now - bears
more juniors - bears
better crowds - bears
sugar daddy in place - bears
membership - bears
number of leagues club to support bid - bears
revival of RL heartland in north shore and feel good factor of bears return - bears

the only thing perth have is potential increase in TV viewers over 10 years and a new TV slot for eastern markets

everything else is the bears JB

GROWL.

the perth bid in terms of membership numbers and financial backers is actually poor

Christchurch will share a franchise with Wellington IMO..........and I believe there will be a second NZ team well before 2022...........if not, I suspect that the NZRL/NRL may have left it too late.
Money is the only thing lacking for a bid.....finding someone willing to underwrite a team over here is proving troublesome

Which Leagues Club? North Sydney? Are you sure they're gonna put money in to the Central Coast Bears? Or are you presuming again.

i mentioned TV JB. and in terms of increasing capital city ratings, itll probably only be by 100,000 for games involving perth
for non perth games i doubt thered be much increase at all

in terms of strength as a RL club the bears obliterate you

heck 10 years down the track theyll still be a stronger club

they have everything going for them.

in terms of juniors, crowds etc central coast will always beat perth

central coast is a RL heartland, we are number 1

perth well always be a long way number 2 trying to grab a small part of the market

from day one the bears will make a profit, perth will need investor to cover losses for at least 10 years

the fact they are a heartland team means perth will never compete with them

Look I've already said Bears have done everything you could expect of a bid development, great bid, great support, great effort, BUT wrong location. Bears in any other place outside of NSW = shoe in. They will prob get in but more because Brisbane2 isn;t ready than the NRL needing or wanting a 11th NSW team.

re day one profit thing, remind me again how many of the other heartland teams are doing this? Newcastle are equally a RL heartland, one club town, great support, in fact everything the Bears offer but have struggled for years to financially keep their heads above water. Like Newcastle, it will only be the backing of a sugar daddy that actually keeps them viable.

2 leagues club vs none for the knights

massive sponsorship base via north shore and central coast

stadium etc

put it this way theyll have around $5 million more pa than perth will

its a shame perth cant be as strong as the bears but thats the difference between being in the heartland and being in an afl state and trying to get a toehold

again your opinion. Neither you or I know exactly who the Reds will get on board as sponsors/owner and so until 2013 it is all guesses. I will bet (if you were a betting man) that the crowds for the two clubs will be within 2-3k of each other though.

How are the Bears League clubs performing, if like the rest of them then I certainly hope they are not banking on that as a strong income source.

re your comment about corporates from North Sydney, I am guessing this is why the other NRL clubs don't want them in, the Sydney market is already over saturated and yet another mouth to feed from the Sydney corporate world is hardly palatable. re stadium, as I said come 2013 the Reds will be playing out of a better stadium.