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| Shome Mashtake Shurely ?
[urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-KR-Mason-ready-fly-UK-having-secured-Tongan-passport/article-3056634-detail/article.html[/url
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| He'll be back home by the end of April - citing "family reasons" and by mutual consent with the club.
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| So if you have a Tongan passport you're classed as fed-trained? Brilliant, that's two more spots opened up for us then!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So if you have a Tongan passport you're classed as fed-trained? Brilliant, that's two more spots opened up for us then!'"
Not brilliant at all, ing horrible for those who care about the international game.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Not brilliant at all, loving horrible for those who care about the international game.'"
Unfortunately that's not the people that matter - club chairmen.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So if you have a Tongan passport you're classed as fed-trained? Brilliant, that's two more spots opened up for us then!'"
He's not classed as fed trained now just non-quota.
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| Quote ="inside_man"He's not classed as fed trained now just non-quota.'"
There's only fed trained and non fed trained.
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| I'll wait to see what the RFL and club say. If the report is fair and accurate we'll get some grief - and for a change deserve it.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Not brilliant at all, loving horrible for those who care about the international game.'"
Bang on pal - is it any wonder we can't get close to the Aussies when clubs manipulate every loophole they can.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I'll wait to see what the RFL and club say. If the report is fair and accurate we'll get some grief - and for a change deserve it.'"
you think you'll get grief for bringing willie mason over ?.
why ?.the guys a super star in RL,he'll put bums on seat,who gives a fig what people think when players like this come over.
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| Quote ="j.c"you think you'll get grief for bringing willie mason over ?.
why ?.the guys a super star in RL,he'll put bums on seat,who gives a fig what people think when players like this come over.'"
If Galea hasn't secured his status, we should have re-signed him [uor[/u signed Mason. Still, you ride your luck - I just hope we learn from it. I suspect the situation may be more nuanced - the OP has included the standard HDM disclaimer in the thread title - but even so.
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| Quote ="j.c"you think you'll get grief for bringing willie mason over ?.
why ?.the guys a super star in RL,he'll put bums on seat,who gives a fig what people think when players like this come over.'"
well said,personally I don't give 2 figs for the international game,fact we have more ozzies Tongans kiwis than ever but we also have the best young talent at the club for an awful long time
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| Does he have a gold tooth? Every time I see the name Willie mason I always think of that bad guy from the old bond films.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"There's only fed trained and non fed trained.'"
No: there's quota, non-federation trained and federation trained.
There is a total overseas limit of five players you can have, which is any combination of quota/non-federation trained players you like.
Quota players are Australians/New Zealanders that don't have exemptions/other passports like Mason. Non-fed players are what were kolpak players.
Last year you could have a maximum five quota players and one non-federation trained player as your overseas limit.
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Quote ="Fully"No: there's quota, non-federation trained and federation trained.
There is a total overseas limit of five players you can have, which is any combination of quota/non-federation trained players you like.
Quota players are Australians/New Zealanders that don't have exemptions/other passports like Mason. Non-fed players are what were kolpak players.
Last year you could have a maximum five quota players and one non-federation trained player as your overseas limit.'"
What he said.
Section C of the RFL Operational Rules: therfl.co.uk/~rflmedia/docs/Oper ... rt%203.pdf
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Quote ="Fully"No: there's quota, non-federation trained and federation trained.
There is a total overseas limit of five players you can have, which is any combination of quota/non-federation trained players you like.
Quota players are Australians/New Zealanders that don't have exemptions/other passports like Mason. Non-fed players are what were kolpak players.
Last year you could have a maximum five quota players and one non-federation trained player as your overseas limit.'"
What he said.
Section C of the RFL Operational Rules: therfl.co.uk/~rflmedia/docs/Oper ... rt%203.pdf
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| Quote ="kitche"eusa_clap.gif well said,[upersonally I don't give 2 figs for the international game[/u,fact we have more ozzies Tongans kiwis than ever but we also have the best young talent at the club for an awful long time'"
Thankfully fans like you are few and far between, in fact i couldn't give 2 figs if you were never to attend a game again.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Thankfully fans like you are few and far between, in fact i couldn't give 2 figs if you were never to attend a game again.'"
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| Quote ="Sheldon"There's only fed trained and non fed trained.'"
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Quote ="Fully"No: there's quota, non-federation trained and federation trained.
There is a total overseas limit of five players you can have, which is any combination of quota/non-federation trained players you like.
Quota players are Australians/New Zealanders that don't have exemptions/other passports like Mason. Non-fed players are what were kolpak players.
Last year you could have a maximum five quota players and one non-federation trained player as your overseas limit.'"
The reason KR will be able to have Mason with him being non-quota, but non-fed trained is because they'll have a quota player that was here before the new rules came in, so he'll be classed as Fed-trained also. Therefore they would have had (an example, not actually calculated) 5 quota players, and 4 non-fed trained players.
Phil Bailey was an example at Wigan, he was on the quota but counted as fed-trained as he was here before the new rules.
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| From what I know, KR's quota will consist of:
Green, Dobson, Webster, Mason and Clinton. Vella, Galea, Fisher, Newton, Lovegrove all don't count AFAIK or may be Webster off and one of the others on. Either way that's pretty much it.
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| Quote ="Fully"From what I know, KR's quota will consist of:
Green, Dobson, Webster, Mason and Clinton. Vella, Galea, Fisher, Newton, Lovegrove all don't count AFAIK or may be Webster off and one of the others on. Either way that's pretty much it.'"
Mason?
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| Quote ="Fully"From what I know, KR's quota will consist of:
Green, Dobson, Webster, Mason and Clinton. Vella, Galea, Fisher, Newton, Lovegrove all don't count AFAIK or may be Webster off and one of the others on. Either way that's pretty much it.'" Vella, Fisher, Lovegrove and Newton don't count towards the quota.
Due to exemptions.
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| Quote ="Fully"No: there's quota, non-federation trained and federation trained.
There is a total overseas limit of five players you can have, which is any combination of quota/non-federation trained players you like.
Quota players are Australians/New Zealanders that don't have exemptions/other passports like Mason. Non-fed players are what were kolpak players.
Last year you could have a maximum five quota players and one non-federation trained player as your overseas limit.'"
But in 2011 you are allowed five overseas players quota or non fed.
The players who have received dispensation are classed as fed trained. The restquota or non quota are non fed trained.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id=346
The table at the bottom'"
There's still the stipulation of only 5 "quota players" as well.
You can be a quota player but still be fed-trained, just as you can be non-quota but non-fed trained.
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