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| With at least one Championship club being awarded a Super League licence, just looking to see what the fans think about who is for the chop, I know it's been and being discussed out there, but polls show exactly what we think in cold hard graphic detail.
Haven't bothered including Wigan, Saints, Bradford, Warrington, Leeds and Hull FC as they achieved A or B licences last time around.
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| Its bye bye wakey I'm afraid.
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| There could be more than one team.
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| I think we all know it's going to be us or Cas but then again I think we all know it should be Celtic-Wrexham-Crusaders or London- Broncos-Harlequins
Yet again this years top jokers are the RFL
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| Hull kr, Can't see it happening but would be funny as if it did, so i'll say wakey with what kear was saying about itat a sports dinner last month in hull
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| Me. One more speeding fine and I'm gone. I wonder if I promise not to do it again the magistrate might let me carry on driving for three more years? I'll submit some rehabilitation plans - see if that'll win them over.
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| Quote ="Londo06"With at least one Championship club being awarded a Super League licence, just looking to see what the fans think about who is for the chop, I know it's been and being discussed out there, but polls show exactly what we think in cold hard graphic detail.
Haven't bothered including Wigan, Saints, Bradford, Warrington, Leeds and Hull FC as they achieved A or B licences last time around.'"
You missed out the ' nobody ' option , when they increase SL to 16
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Quote ="Starbug"You missed out the ' nobody ' option , when they increase SL to 16'"
True the RFL could opt to go up to 16, but I hardly think that it would help the national team unless they were going to play home and away games in alternate seasons and have our players having 16 SL games inc MM, alongside the CC, play-offs, GF, potentially a Roses series. The option of another two teams wouldn't go down too well with some and four more games would have some outspoken pundits pulling their hair out.
Nobody is an option, but only if all appicants fail to beat the criteria www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id=375
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Quote ="Starbug"You missed out the ' nobody ' option , when they increase SL to 16'"
True the RFL could opt to go up to 16, but I hardly think that it would help the national team unless they were going to play home and away games in alternate seasons and have our players having 16 SL games inc MM, alongside the CC, play-offs, GF, potentially a Roses series. The option of another two teams wouldn't go down too well with some and four more games would have some outspoken pundits pulling their hair out.
Nobody is an option, but only if all appicants fail to beat the criteria www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id=375
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Quote ="Londo06":1ll6o0btTrue the RFL could opt to go up to 16, but I hardly think that it would help the national team unless they were going to play home and away games in alternate seasons and have our players having 16 SL games inc MM, alongside the CC, play-offs, GF, potentially a Roses series. The option of another two teams wouldn't go down too well with some and four more games would have some outspoken pundits pulling their hair out.
Nobody is an option, but only if all appicants fail to beat the criteria www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id=375'" a current SL club
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Quote ="Londo06":1ll6o0btTrue the RFL could opt to go up to 16, but I hardly think that it would help the national team unless they were going to play home and away games in alternate seasons and have our players having 16 SL games inc MM, alongside the CC, play-offs, GF, potentially a Roses series. The option of another two teams wouldn't go down too well with some and four more games would have some outspoken pundits pulling their hair out.
Nobody is an option, but only if all appicants fail to beat the criteria www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id=375'" a current SL club
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not really , the club Chairmen would welcome more fixtures , the Roses thing wont happen again , and as far as International ' burn out ' , well you just set a limit on the number of games any one particular player can play , which would be another way of encouraging clubs to ' blood ' juniors
Widnes pass the criteria [ it was set with them in mind so they will go up , but I think the RFL will do anything in their power to avert dropping [ and potentially killing a current SL club'"
Good point on the player burn out issue; I've never understood how players are stood down the week before SOO matches, yet we can't manage to rest our top players properly and having them physically drained by playing too many games. I'm not sure SL needs more teams, it does need better teams, and of the endangered 8 teams, bar one or two they are not expected to reach the play-offs, so there does need to be a change. If there is someone out there with millions of pounds to pump into a club, pre-existing or otherwise and I change my tune, otherwise I go with the one-in, one-out policy.
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| Widnes pass the criteria [ it was set with them in mind so they will go up , but I think the RFL will do anything in their power to avert dropping [ and potentially killing a current SL club'"
It didn't stop the RFL 'potentially' killing clubs last time. Those who were wanted got in, those who weren't were left out. The only difference this time is that the clubs who got in have had three years to attend to those areas where their bid was weak and those who didn't get in have had three years to strengthen their bids in areas which kept them out. Halifax and Widnes appear to have made solid attempts to do their bit - what of Wakefield, Castleford, Salford and Harlequins?
And how was the criteria set with Widnes in mind?
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| Quote I think we all know it's going to be us or Cas but then again I think we all know it should be Celtic-Wrexham-Crusaders or London- Broncos-Harlequins
Yet again this years top jokers are the RFL '"
Going bust and having no ground (of worth) just before the decision is made wont help Wakey sadly-having a nice RU stadium to use and a wealthy backer as per Quins does help. Goodnight Wakey
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| Quote ="newsboy":2feo32viWidnes pass the criteria [ it was set with them in mind so they will go up , but I think the RFL will do anything in their power to avert dropping [ and potentially killing a current SL club'" :2feo32vi
Quote :2feo32vi=#FF0000:2feo32viIt didn't stop the RFL 'potentially' killing clubs last time.:2feo32vi Those who were wanted got in, those who weren't were left out. The only difference this time is that the clubs who got in have had three years to attend to those areas where their bid was weak and those who didn't get in have had three years to strengthen their bids in areas which kept them out. Halifax and Widnes appear to have made solid attempts to do their bit - what of Wakefield, Castleford, Salford and Harlequins?
And how was the criteria set with Widnes in mind?'"
It is a very different scenario from not letting a club in , and kicking a club out , from a legal point of view it is highly unlikely any club not in SL could win a case for admission , but much more likely an existing SL club clould win a case if removed
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| Should be the celtic wrexham crusaders. But it is looking like wakey
i hope halifax come up.
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| Quote ="Starbug":2vcqsjyh'"
Why would a club being 'kicked out' take legal action? Don't laugh, but the RFL insist that the criteria on which the licences applications will be judged is transparent and will be applied to all clubs fairly. Remember, the clubs themselves were consulted on the criteria and agreed the system. If the same sytem when applied last time was okay because it kept certain clubs in, why would it be so wrong as to need those same clubs to resort to legal action when the same system now kicks one of them out? If it was fair and just when it kept Halifax, Leigh and Widnes out, it will surely be just as fair when it lets one of them in (not Leigh) and removes at least one existing club.
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| Quote :1uup378jQuote ="newsboy":1uup378jIt is a very different scenario from not letting a club in , and kicking a club out , from a legal point of view it is highly unlikely any club not in SL could win a case for admission , but much more likely an existing SL club clould win a case if removed'" :1uup378j
Why would a club being 'kicked out' take legal action? Don't laugh, but the RFL insist that the criteria on which the licences applications will be judged is transparent and will be applied to all clubs fairly. Remember, the clubs themselves were consulted on the criteria and agreed the system. If the same sytem when applied last time was okay because it kept certain clubs in, why would it be so wrong as to need those same clubs to resort to legal action when the same system now kicks one of them out? If it was fair and just when it kept Halifax, Leigh and Widnes out, it will surely be just as fair when it lets one of them in (not Leigh) and removes at least one existing club.'" is not where they are at
I actually hope they dont drop anybody down , because they will IMO over compensate that club to the detriment of the Championships
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| Quote ="madtigerman"Should be the celtic wrexham crusaders. But it is looking like wakey
i hope halifax come up.'"
not a chance its got widnes wrote all over it i would like fax or fev but its going to be widnes although it should be who wins the league but thats my opinion
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| Quote ="hullkrforever"not a chance its got widnes wrote all over it i would like fax or fev but its going to be widnes although =#FF0000it should be who wins the league but thats my opinion'"
When ?
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| I think we think that Wakefield are gonna lose there licences.
She's going down I think.
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| Quote ="Conorgiantsfan"I think we think that Wakefield are gonna lose there =#FF0000licences.
She's going down I think.'"
Which other ones are they losing ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Which other ones are they losing ?'"
There bar licence. Cats club can't continue without Super League
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| It's sad that any club has to go and maybe the rfl has finally seen sense and will actually expand the league to 15 or even 16 clubs, although when has the RFL ever seen sense.
Our pool of players for internationals is small, as of course we only have 14 teams to select from and even then half the players are foreign, but another two teams would eventually see an increase in Superleague standard players.
But if anyone is given the boot then I guess it will be Wakey.
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| Quote ="Starbug"When ?'"
When ever who cares it should be the league winners gf winners what ever no more no less it shouldn't matter how good your ground is etc it should be what You field and if they field a good team they stay up if not backdown just like the prem league is it's worked for over a 100 years promotion relagation so why stop it now
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| I think there are a few twists and turns yet. Wakefield are down but not completely out. Promises have been made but there are a few who have yet to deliver who can consider themselves lucky in the recent past.And then there's the fact that nobody knows yet how many are coming up from the championship. There is one guaranteed, but not one exclusively. If it were up to me, I'd kick out two. And the two I would kick out do not necessarily include the current favourite Wakefield.
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| widnes for wakey
the franchise decisions are so much easier this time
widnes are the standout inclusion and wakey the exclusion
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