Do you think that a Three Game Origin Match would be the answer to the problems faced by England, more representative Rugby against competitive teams?

If the coaches, fans, players and media backed it then yes.

The answer to Englands problems ?

I think we need English coaches learning their trade in Aus because currently they're not very good.

Agar, Noble, Kear, Banana, McDermott- not good enough

No. The end.

I doubt it would be the answer to all of our problems, but for me it would be a welcome addition to the rugby league calendar.

I don't have a club team to support and the national team don't play that many games each year.

An origin series would give me 1 (or ideally 3) more high profile games to watch. If one of the games was played at Wembley, I would definitely go.

What problems?

No. It would show RL up as being as insular as the media make us out to be, and serve to get us ignored even further.

Stick with developing the game in Wales and France. If we do that, then there's no reason why their national sides won't strengthen and at least give England a game.

No. Coaching and the level of intensity at the highest level of our domestic game have been the things we have needed to improve since about, erm, 1982.

It wouldn't solve all the problems but would help quite a bit. Only if it's made clear that international places at the end of the year are dependent on good performances in the Roses games though. Then if anyone drops out due to "injury" there is a consequence. It's certainly a better idea than an England v Other Nationalities game.

It wouldn't solve the core problems though, and this is where I disagree with the points made by others that the problems are to do with coaching at the highest level, I think they're to do with coaching at the lowest level. Our much beloved, oft-praised, magnificent BARLA led, grass-roots, salt-of-the-earth, amateur game is a farce. Until we sort that out we won't get through anywhere enough top players for England to be 3 deep in every position. The SL/Championship club academy's/coaches can't polish a turd.

We need a stronger international competition locally. At the moment, we are too far behind Australia and New Zealand but too good for Wales, France, Ireland and Scotland.

Geographically, mid-season games against Aus and New Zealand are out of the question, a "SL Kiwis" team isn't appealing to fans and the 'local' countries don't give us a game - that's what needs addressing. We are still miles away from having a credible representative system.

Whilst I think that's a very good point, however the Kiwis only improved by having more of their players plying their trade in the NRL. Improving the intensity of the local competition is far more influential than improving the intensity of the local international game i.e. 27 intense games per year is far better for our players than four or five intense games per year because the top ESL clubs get that many already.

a roses match is definately what we need.

It'll certainly lead us up Quality Street.

There'll definitely be a few Celebrations at the end.

No but a Probables v Possibles would IMO be worth considering, especially over a 3 match series.

but LF, who would fans support and why would they want to watch it?

It could be a game when "Hero's" could be made

Or in Rob Burrow's case, Miniature Hero.

There is no sense in that because...



...also which clubs are going to release their players for three games either during the season or at the end? It's not practical and even if it was it still fails to address the fundamental issue of intensity with the ESL.

What about a West vs East game? Split the league down the middle and colour one red and one blue maybe?

In theory it sounds good but we as a sport are just not big enough.
Plus to make us look less parochial we'd have to be West v East, it still wouldn't generate enough interest so we thrown in a Foreigner in SL Xiii, 3 teams. Will the jonny foreigners be interested ?
Then we have to fit it into the calender.

It won't happen is basically the long and short of it.

I just think the clubs would pull players out and no-one would play at 100% in case they got injured, it would be counter productive as it is the intensity we need. The only way to reach that intensity is improve SL year on year and keep playing autumn internationals.

Concentrate on dragging the Taffs and Frogs up to standard and play mid-season internationals, it's our only hope.

Agree with you Matt.

The only way there would be any intensity is if it were the end of season, no one would risk getting injured if it was mid season, which would also apply to beginning of the season.

Have like an ashes game, but with Wales and England, play it in Wrexham the first year, and play it in the country of the team who wins.

Or we can make it a Top 5 system, so the end of season games are more important.