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| For me i thought Roby and Robinson looked our most dangerous players and i thought Fielden and Westwood looked hungry too up front
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| Robinson, Roby, Westwood and Graham played pretty well. To be fair the whole pack played pretty well but yet again they don't have a backline alongside them good enough to cause the opposition any problems(or even keep hold of the ball or limit any damage).
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| Ben Westwood was amazing at the beginning of the game, as was James Graham.
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| Ben Westwood
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| Westwood and Robinson and the ref
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| Roby and Westwood were the best players for England, particularly in the first half. The majority of the second half was basically a training run.
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| Westwood.
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| Of the 2 games played so far only Roby, Westwood and Graham look as though they can play consistently at an international level.
Worse player Atkins, has,nt got the mental attitude or brain to play at this level.
Most dissapointing Ellis and Burgess, I expected them to take the game by the scruff of the neck but looked lifeless on many occaisons.
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| Fielden? Did he actually get on the field?
Roby, Graham, Westwood and Burgess played well, IMO.
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| Roby was England’s best player today – closely followed by Westwood who was let down slightly by his discipline
Graham worked hard and showed good hands while on the pitch and Ellis was once again tireless in defence
Robinson looked dangerous at times and took his try well and I genuinely think that Lunt can develop into an international class hooker to compliment Roby
Of those who will be disappointed with their performances, Burgess was probably top of the list – was very good at times but made too many errors (even before the rain started to hammer down)
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| Roby has no doubt been the stand out player for England in Australia. For this game praise must go to Westwood, Burgess and Roby.
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| Westwood and Graham.
That is all.
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| Robinson has impressed me most over both games, if we picked two half backs he may have gone even better - like robinson the forwards did ok but all made errors which is why we were beaten so easily
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| From the tour as a whole, Roby and Graham are the only 2 who can hold their heads up. From todays game, Roby, Graham and Westwood. But honourable mentions to Robinson and Lunt.
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| Westwood.
Roby had the best game I've seen him have in international colours, but I've never seen him just run past the ball and knock-on for Saints, and yet he's done it twice in two games on this tour. Bizarre.
Don't see how Burgess can.
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| The Aussie press will say the only good players were Ellis and Burgess, just as they said after the Kiwi game.
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| What is blatantly obvious is that we can,t bring our best players be it in England or Australia from the domestic game to the international stage.
A few sample examples is:
Ellis/Burgess having great games in OZ but look very ordinary playing for England.
Atkins one of the best attacking backs last season, looking clueless devoid of ideas.
Widdop looking full of promise, now destined for the scrap heap.
The England coaching set up needs a complete shake up, instead of the annual how good we can beat France
We,ve got too many "winning mentality legendary" players hanging around on the edges of rugby league having no impact on how the game should be modelled, Hanley, Clarke, Sculthorpe,Edwards,Long etc.
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| I thought Roby and Robinson were where England looked dangerous, O'Loughlin and Goulding were the worst
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"The Aussie press will say the only good players were Ellis and Burgess, just as they said after the Kiwi game.'"
Burgess has been very disappointing for me and makes far too many mistakes.
Graham, Westwood and Roby were our best players today and overall I certainly think that Graham can hold his head high as to how he performed last week and this.
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| roby, westwood, graham and robinson were our best players today. was expecting better things from burgess and ellis.
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| I thought roby had a good game and so did robinson.
Thought Atkins will be left dissapointed again, he just looks out of his depth!
I was impressed with the debutants, Lunt looks like he could be a very dangerous player for england, cudjoe was ok missed a couple of tackles and ben harrison continues to impress every time I see him play.
I'm taking a hell of alot of positives out of this tour, I looked at the world cup team and they should of got in the final, nothing was expected of our men this time around and they have been rather competitive. We just need to significantly work on our completion, especially coming away from our own line. You should never give the ball away in your red zone but time and time again we have done that.
The whole team will be learning from this and gives us more squad depth when the likes of morley,peacock,eastmond,mcguire,pryce,sinfield are back next year.
1. Sam Tomkins
2. Hall
3. Pryce
4. Shenton
5. Briscoe
6. McGuire
7. Eastmond
8. Graham
9. Sinfield
10. Peacock
11. Ellis
12. Burgess
13. O'Loughlin
14. Morley
15. Fielden
16. Roby
17. Westwood
is how I would of liked to seen us line up in this 4ns.
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| Ben Westwood, I would go on to say he is one of our best at International level, not like the next big thing in SL that is the choker at International level Sam Tomkins. And I know people are gonna come up with the excuses he was a target blah blah blah, but look at darren Lockyer. We target him everytime but he always comes up with the good wether his pack wins or not, because he is a truly class player, not a PRETENDER.
Rant over, I know alot of the deluded people on here will.....
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| Thought from 9-13 we looked the business. Crabtree looked good off the bench and Robinson did what he could. 1-6 just shocking. I know there young but some of the mistakes with and wthout ball were amateurish and certainly not close to Int standard.
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| to me roby played well but was on far too long in first half, lunt didnt come on until well into 2nd half, poor coaching in my eyes that, as was picking tomkins at full back he needs to be in the halves, oloughlin was terrible at stand off for me he contibuted massively to the missed tackles in the centres due to him not moving across in the defensive line, for the first try it was 5 against 2 but people blame the centre for the missed tackle , another coaching error in my eyes picking a defensive stand off instead of a attacking one.overall for me our best today were roby westwood graham and robinson, the worst burgess who makes more errors than anybody in the team, but plays in nrl so must be great, oloughlin so far out of position he looked lost and atkins another who makes countless errors throughout every game he plays.
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| The backs just arnet good enough. To be fair to Lockers, he shouldnt have been playing 6, and Cudjoe was as much to blame of that first try as Lockers. Goulding, Atkins, Briscoe, Cudjoe are no where near good enough for this level. Overall most have been very disappointing.
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