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| And given the potential for libel on further discussion, we'll content ourselves with the announcement. Thanks.
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| OK - after representation and further consideration, I'm unlocking this. But please keep discussion to the rugby league implications. Comment or speculation that wanders into dodgy territory will see it locked again.
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| Do Crusaders get the cap space back that his wage took up to allow them to sign a replacement? Would imagine that his contract has been torn up with him going to prison.
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| TB
Thanks for putting it back
My point is no longer valid on this thread. Not because it would cause concern, but is not directly RL related. It is more suited to the sinbin re how offenders are dealt with.
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| Am I allowed to point out that Raynor's been imprisoned for a crime worth less than £50k, yet I'm unaware of a single prosecution of any banker responsible for destroying our economy, wiping out people's jobs and effectively defrauding the shareholders of their banks to the sum of billions of pounds, all the while pocketing millions in unearned bonuses?
Sorry. Occasionally, I have to let the rage out.
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| Such a shame because Raynor showed such promise in the first game against Leeds. Unfortunately rugby league has the most unforgiving fans in the world and if Gareth comes back to play rugby league after he’s served his time lets hope that he doesn’t get the same uncalled treatment that Ryan Bailey and Chev Walker have had.
Once you’ve served your time you should be given another chance!
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| he got some serious stick at Craven Park at the weekend!
The "going down" chant was somewhat cruel but prophetic!
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| Will he be able to ressurect his career in 2012 when he's 33/34? Its a big ask.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"Am I allowed to point out that Raynor's been imprisoned for a crime worth less than £50k, yet I'm unaware of a single prosecution of any banker.'"
Contact the CPS. Maybe they are unaware of the crimes that have been committed and the laws that they have broken.
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| As far as the salary cap's concerned, I think he was on a short term contract in case this happened.
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| No mention of it on the SL and RFL websites
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"Am I allowed to point out that Raynor's been imprisoned for a crime worth less than £50k, yet I'm unaware of a single prosecution of any banker responsible for destroying our economy, wiping out people's jobs and effectively defrauding the shareholders of their banks to the sum of billions of pounds, all the while pocketing millions in unearned bonuses?
Sorry. Occasionally, I have to let the rage out.'"
Sort of sums up my point!
The lad was found guilty and the consequences apply but something about the "system" is wrong.
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| Indeed, the poor lad! All he did was defraud people of thier money over the internet. 2 year's jail for fraud.
Seems harsh when there's vile Australian players coming over here and making honest mistakes on their visas and only getting deported and banned form the country for a paltry 10 YEARS!
Crusaders players agian of course, but they were SOUTH Wales Crusaders (therefore BAD), not NORTH Wales Crusaders (therefore GOOD).
Still ... you're not a proper SL team until you've got a jailbird in your squad (though admittedly usually because of gambling scams, violence or spousal abuse).
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| clearly not enough money in being a Rugby Player, maybe thats why Hull want to change the Salary cap?
I find it strange he was on a suspended sentence for assault but is jailed for fraud, mind you his defence about being a role model was pretty laughable
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Will he be able to ressurect his career in 2012 when he's 33/34? Its a big ask.'"
I'll have to change my handle to tough ask........
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| Quote ="Hopie"I find it strange he was on a suspended sentence for assault but is jailed for fraud, mind you his defence about being a role model was pretty laughable'"
Defrauding the state is the biggest crime you can commit, they arnt really bothered about you assaulting folk as it doesnt effect the establishment, only "chavy scum"
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| Typical that the Telegraph sports section had more coverage of this than in Monday's edition supposedly covering the weekends RL.
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"Typical that the Telegraph sports section had more coverage of this than in Monday's edition supposedly covering the weekends RL.'"
maybe they used his ink on monday
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| Raynnor's life is in tatters.
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| Quote ="back to back to back"Raynnor's life is in tatters.'"
nah doncaster
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| Quote ="Traffic"www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=1768
club seem to be sticking by him'"
yeah good on them , Hull got shut of him cos they used the ink for Paul Cookes contract
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"yeah good on them , Hull got shut of him cos they used the ink for Paul Cookes contract
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Indeed, a violent, racist fraudster, well done SL for sticking by him (and I include FC in that!) - not what we need.
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| Lol theres this guy who comes to where i work who claims to be Raynors cousin (dont know if he actually is) and he always used to come up to us in the shop and say "our Gareth, 2 trys this weekend" then walk off, he hasnt been in and said anything in a bit now.
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