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| a story in rugby league week quotes david gallop saying he has given the strongest indications yet we will expand in 2013.
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1. the 2 teams will be CC bears and perth
2. gallop on expansion "history shows you only need a lead up time of 18 mths"
3. gallop " theres obviously advantages in having 2 teams not one. we need to stay focused on looking for increases in the current cap and grant but the new tv deal will allow us to consider expansion"
4. gallop "personally i see a lot of attraction in having a team from perth back in the comp.".
5. gallop has met with bid team from cc, perth, PNG in the past 3 weeks/
6. gallop "in the case of perth, whats very encouraging is the crowd figures for souths games there and also the dragons pre season matches .. then theres the participation rates, the new sponsor for sg ball and the new management structure of the warl"
7. gallop "no doubt CC are a leading contender ... we are working very closely with greg florimo and david farleigh"
8. a key part of the bears appeal is tapping into the financial hub of nth sydney
9 "the attraction of the CC is the area itself but also a chance to reconnect with the nth shore of sydney and the proud tradition of the bears"
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| david gallop will have taken the game back to the pinnacle it had in 1995, and he faced a much tougher sporting enviroment to do it with
the way he recognizes the loss of the bears for an ex SL man is brilliant
we are going to get a 6 million salary cap plus 2 new teams
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| In your opinion dally are Perth and cc the best places to go?
Do qld deserve another side, or even Adelaide?
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| no mention of wellington/southern orcas! although league really needed in perth and would be good to see north sydney bear back on the central coast! they were biluding a stadium there an everything to relocate but went bust and got forcrd in a rigged merger that wasnt equal with manly holding most of the cards!
cant see how png could get a side over a 2nd nz team, png have so many social problems and have no stadium! or even adequate security and television facilities! im bias in supporting 2nd nz side cause im from nz. i want to see png do well but seriously they would be 20 years away from being close to nrl standard. maybe take a few tests back to png and continue promoting aids and anti violence programs and get png based team in queensland cup 1st. start biluding a modern stadium in port moresby.
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| excuse me whilst I pick myself up off the floor!
First time Gallop has EVER said anything positive about Perth!
Dally any chance you scan it and post it as getting RLW here is problamatic
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| found a copy, great stuff! Finally some positives about expansion, has Gallop been reading my posts?
I'm scanning and sending to the West in the vain hope they might do a story!
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| Quote ="Sheldon"In your opinion dally are Perth and cc the best places to go?
Do qld deserve another side, or even Adelaide?'"
imo central coast bears were the clear favourites and necessary
toss of a coin between perth and queensland.
since there isnt a really strong queensland bid perth is good
we need 2 more queensland nrl clubs, 1 more in nz and then png
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"found a copy, great stuff! Finally some positives about expansion, has Gallop been reading my posts?
I'm scanning and sending to the West in the vain hope they might do a story!'"
Post it here mate.
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| Great news,hopefully now we can see the NRL expand the game proper outside NSW/QLD.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"Great news,hopefully now we can see the NRL expand the game proper outside NSW/QLD.'"
melbourne storm
nz warriors
try harder troll
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| Quote ="dally messenger"melbourne storm
nz warriors
try harder troll
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As i've said before,your a p...k of the highest order.Now go and watch your fav sport AFL.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"As i've said before,your a p...k of the highest order.Now go and watch your fav sport AFL.
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p88s off troll.
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| i hope perth is in followed by central coast bears, after that i'd say another qld side and 2nd nz side. after that it's adelaide, darwin and port moresby/png side but that a long way down the track unless sydney clubs were to voluntarily relocate to adelaide or darwin. heres looking at you cronulla!
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| 22 teams all up would be great if we can keep the comp at the good standard its at.
all 16 clubs we have now with
Perth
Adelaide
Central Coast
2nd NZ
PNG Vipers
and another qld team.
That'd be a pretty awesome comp and establish RL as the undisputed #1 sporting comp in the Southern hemisphere. (even though it already is)
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| Beauty of getting more TV $'s is we can increase club grants, increase salary cap and keep players in the NRL instead of them heading to SL. There is at least two decent teams of Aussies/Kiwis playing in the SL.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Beauty of getting more TV $'s is we can increase club grants, increase salary cap and keep players in the NRL instead of them heading to SL. There is at least two decent teams of Aussies/Kiwis playing in the SL.'"
For bloody sure mate, I get so annoyed when they say we don't have the talent blah blah blah, it's bulle.
There's a ready made NZ team and a Perth and CC team in the waiting.
Fooking lying soft c0cks.
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| yeh and lets be honest majority of players head to SL for the $'s. If those $'s were available here they wouldn't be leaving. Looking at the salary cap levels and the tighting of the tax loophole plus exchange rate I doubt it is that lucrative any more to be playing in SL, especially of we can get the salary cap up to $6mill.
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| Quote ="eels fan"22 teams all up would be great if we can keep the comp at the good standard its at.
all 16 clubs we have now with
Perth
Adelaide
Central Coast
2nd NZ
PNG Vipers
and another qld team.
That'd be a pretty awesome comp and establish RL as the undisputed #1 sporting comp in the Southern hemisphere. (even though it already is)'"
PNG before a 4th and 5th Queensland team?? Don't think so mate. Could have a 24 team comp and I doubt PNG would get a look in.
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| I think by 2020 we will have a 20 team comp with:
WA Reds
CC Bears
Sth Q'land
Wellington
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Adelaide and PNG/Darwin are way long shots and can't see it for many years.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"I think by 2020 we will have a 20 team comp with:
WA Reds
CC Bears
Sth Q'land
Wellington
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Adelaide and PNG/Darwin are way long shots and can't see it for many years.'"
yeah pretty much agreed.
those 20 are crucial.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"I think by 2020 we will have a 20 team comp with:
WA Reds
CC Bears
Sth Q'land
Wellington
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Adelaide and PNG/Darwin are way long shots and can't see it for many years.'"
Adelaide will be there before NZ 2. Either a new team or a relocation of a Sydney club, but there's almost zero chance that Wellington/Christchurch will be in before them.
You said it in the thread on LU, the tv companies will have a big say on where the expansion teams go.
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| Quote ="Lockyer4President!"Adelaide will be there before NZ 2. Either a new team or a relocation of a Sydney club, but there's almost zero chance that Wellington/Christchurch will be in before them.
You said it in the thread on LU, the tv companies will have a big say on where the expansion teams go.'"
disagree
adelaides a waste of space
id put png before them
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| Quote ="Lockyer4President!"PNG before a 4th and 5th Queensland team?? Don't think so mate. Could have a 24 team comp and I doubt PNG would get a look in.'"
Na mate, I didn't mean in that order, just random places that could eventually have teams.
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| Quote ="Lockyer4President!"Adelaide will be there before NZ 2. Either a new team or a relocation of a Sydney club, but there's almost zero chance that Wellington/Christchurch will be in before them.
You said it in the thread on LU, the tv companies will have a big say on where the expansion teams go.'"
Only if a NSW team relocates there. Even then I doubt very much the NRL has much interest in SA at the moment. Not sure what has happened to the Wellington bid team? The were all gung ho before and even muted joining the SL they were so desperate. There has been no noise at all from them about 2013. The NZ TV deal is actually quite lucrative for the NRL so if a 2nd NZ team increased that then I would suggest they would be all for it.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Only if a NSW team relocates there. Even then I doubt very much the NRL has much interest in SA at the moment. Not sure what has happened to the Wellington bid team? The were all gung ho before and even muted joining the SL they were so desperate. There has been no noise at all from them about 2013. The NZ TV deal is actually quite lucrative for the NRL so if a 2nd NZ team increased that then I would suggest they would be all for it.'"
Agree that a relocation would be best.
Gotta remember that things can change very quickly. It was only a few years ago when the NRL had 15 teams and knocked back the GC, CC and Wellington. Now they're talking about going to 18 teams in 2013...
With the likelihood that by 2013 the only city in Australia over 150,000 people without an NRL team is Adelaide would probably kick-start some local interest, especially if the comp is televised there. The Rams had very good support until they it was obvious they were going to be kicked out.
Couple of other points:
- Very little local competition in SA. The only other winter teams are the two AFL franchises. In summer there's the cricket and soccer teams.
- They already have a decent rectangular stadium which needs no upgrades.
- 1,000,000+ Australians are worth more than 400,000 Kiwi's. Especially with sponsorships and media rights negotiated by Australian companies.
As for Wellington, they've probably just given up. IIRC they had a single rich backer and he's probably lost interest, especially since the NRL has ruled out expanding outside Australia until after 2013. Assuming the next tv deal is for six years then the earliest that they would be able to join the comp would be in 2019/2020.
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