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| ...was the official attendance at bridgend yesterday. on a sunny day with loads of free tickets flying about, and shortly after their first win, what does this have to say about RL growth potential the area?
was a pretty depressing watch imo
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| They are bottom of the league, only success will bring the crowds in. Which will come I am sure, with Mr Money bags behind them! They have not even completed a full season in SL. Give em a bloody chance.
Don't forget Wakie wouldn't have taken many, they can hardly get fans in when they are at home never mind miles away.
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| Quote ="styler"...was the official attendance at bridgend yesterday. on a sunny day with loads of free tickets flying about, and shortly after their first win, what does this have to say about RL growth potential the area?
was a pretty depressing watch imo'"
that was kept quiet no result page had it on this morrning they are in the mire if they cant get it up even with 1000 free tickets but they have another 2 years to get it better but i wont hold my breath
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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."They are bottom of the league, only success will bring the crowds in. Which will come I am sure, with Mr Money bags behind them! They have not even completed a full season in SL. Give em a bloody chance.
Don't forget Wakie wouldn't have taken many, they can hardly get fans in when they are at home never mind miles away.'"
No one gave Leigh a chance, and we couldn't sign anyone due to it being far too late too.
We are half way through 1 SL season, but if they keep getting tatered in a non RL area, then I feel they will not be with us soon.
1000 paying spectators will not keep them ticking over. They need wins, and fast!
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| Quote ="Snowy"No one gave Leigh a chance, and we couldn't sign anyone due to it being far too late too.
We are half way through 1 SL season, but if they keep getting tatered in a non RL area, then I feel they will not be with us soon.
1000 paying spectators will not keep them ticking over. They need wins, and fast!
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after yesterdays showing that seems impossible
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| *sigh*
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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."They are bottom of the league, only success will bring the crowds in. Which will come I am sure, with Mr Money bags behind them! They have not even completed a full season in SL. Give em a bloody chance.
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Their crowds are only going down as the season goes on and this is the week after winning at Bradford. They won't fold while Leighton Samuels is funding them but the day he walks out they'll fold on the spot, and he walked out on Celtic Warriors in RU (his first sport) due to bad crowds there. People might like to mention junior development in Wales, but junior development doesn't pay the bills, and Gateshead folded after more success and higher crowds than this.
Would have liked SL to have worked in Wales, but it should have been done properly, would rather there was a decent Championship team in Wales with Welsh players than a SL club made up of Aussies playing in a town smaller than Widnes and getting hammered at home to Wakefield in front of 2000 people
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| While it is true that a successful team will generate higher crowds, they can be quite separate issues.
For example, if there is an appetite for RL in South Wales, people will go to watch the Crusaders games. Perhaps to see the likes of Saints, Wigan, Leeds etc if not the local side.
Also, surely yesterday was the worst day to hold a live RL game in a development area. FA Cup Final, glorious weather, top-level RL on terrestrial TV, plus the game was televised.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
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| Quote ="styler"...was the official attendance at bridgend yesterday. on a sunny day with loads of free tickets flying about, and shortly after their first win, what does this have to say about RL growth potential the area?
was a pretty depressing watch imo'"
So what? wakey a team in existance more than a hundred year got 5,000 for a derby match last week and they gave out some free tickets too, the celts had to compete with an FA cup final, international RU, challenge cup rugby and to top it all off the game was on sky! Give them a chance and if its still the same in 3 years we may have to try something new but anybody who seriously expected them to have anything but the lowest crowds in the league this season is not very bright.
By the way wakey fans this isnt a dig at you i could have used say salford as example but your game stuck in my mind from last week.
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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."They are bottom of the league, only success will bring the crowds in. Which will come I am sure, with Mr Money bags behind them! They have not even completed a full season in SL. Give em a bloody chance.
Don't forget Wakie wouldn't have taken many, they can hardly get fans in when they are at home never mind miles away.'"
a bit unfair , wakey have a good travelling support even if the home support is down to its bare bones its still quite evident that the hardcore element is still there
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| Last week Leighton Samuel himself said that he had put in £745k so far this season just to keep the club operating. Extrapolate that and he's looking at maybe £1.5m for the season. He also professed his disappointment at season ticket sales (less than 250 sold), failure to attract corporate hospitality and the general lack of interest locally (low take-up of free admission vouchers etc).
Make of that what you will.
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| Quote ="Wheels"*sigh*
Not this again.'"
Get used to it. If they won every game between here and the end of the season, RL fans would accuse the RFL of bias.
Are none so blind etc.
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| Quote ="Derwent"Last week Leighton Samuel himself said that he had put in £745k so far this season just to keep the club operating. Extrapolate that and he's looking at maybe £1.5m for the season. He also professed his disappointment at season ticket sales (less than 250 sold), failure to attract corporate hospitality and the general lack of interest locally (low take-up of free admission vouchers etc).
Make of that what you will.'"
Whoa! You can't argue with the numbers. That is some serious cash in a short space of time.
This development game is a marathon, not a sprint though.
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| Give it time to grow
They have a few years to go and with it being the Union off season they may, MAY attract a few of them now. It takes time and there is very little in the way of league around them, a few good wins, a bit of positive publicity and it will improve I am sure. The ground is ok, lets face it any ground named Brewery field is off on the ebst foot with RL supporters.
I would be more concerned with Londons gates then Celtic at the moment, but then again they are building up.
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| it was a mistake to let them in super league, at least three more years building in the lower league was needed, the only advantage they have got from entering superleague is the sky money, look at what happened to huddersfield after being stuck at the bottom of the league, they took years (and a relegation) to recover
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| It is a poor gate but people have to give them a chance which is why 3years for them is a good thing i feel. (even though im not fully behind the franchise idea) Could anyone tell me what there gates were when they were winning games in nl1?
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| Quote ="Ian P"Give it time to grow
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The thing is though that it is at the discretion of one man whether it gets that time or not. If Leighton Samuel runs out of money or patience then it's game over. Not a great situation to be in really.
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| Less than 250 season tickets sold? most championship teams beat that, and a few hammer it
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| I want a SL side in Wales, consisting of a core of Welshmen.
CC do not tick any boxes in convincing me they are that side. Poor ground, no fans, small town and packed full of tourists from Down Under.
The RFL have made a monumental cock up again, I wonder if a gun was held to their head??
Wales may be ready in 5 years, at Cardiff or Swansea though.
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| TBH they aren't a million miles away from London, and theyve been going for decades!
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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."They are bottom of the league, only success will bring the crowds in. Which will come I am sure, with Mr Money bags behind them! They have not even completed a full season in SL. Give em a bloody chance.
Don't forget Wakie wouldn't have taken many, they can hardly get fans in when they are at home never mind miles away.'"
We took a good number down and at short notice as well in a month that has included games in Scotland and London. Was a really enjoyable experience and I look forward to going next year. Am sure given time that their crowds will increase.
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| Quote ="bowes"They won't fold while Leighton Samuels is funding them but the day he walks out they'll fold on the spot'"
And how many other clubs wouldn't if their benefactor did the same?
Quote ="bowes"and he walked out on Celtic Warriors in RU (his first sport) due to bad crowds there.'"
More interference from the WRU from what I recall.
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| Quote ="TFC"TBH they aren't a million miles away from London, and theyve been going for decades!'"
Believe it or not but our average attendance is nearly 1,000 above that of quins in competitive home games this year.
This will only increase too, in my opinion, with the visit of Wigan, KR and the Leeds game at Rodney Parade, Newport.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"
More interference from the WRU from what I recall.'"
Spot on.
The WRU actually bought him out and then wound the club up spreading the players around the remaining regions. All this despite LS asking for assurances that this wouldn't happen.
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| Hate to say it and it*s good for expansion but can we really see Celtic taking off in what really is Rugby Union country?We have a team that could well be finishing bottom of Superleague for 3 years running,and then what happens if the benefactor gets fed up with them and who can blame him?....It would have been the same if they would have started a club in,,say ,,the Midlands,,.There*s no interest here i*m afraid because one sport dominates and that is football,,same as South Wales..
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