If they England or GT Britain ever won a tri nations series or the World Cup.I know you poms haven't had the treat of winning either for for a long time.But your time is coming ,maybe 2013.Or the tri nations this year.


Just look at the Kiwis by them winning the World Cup last year the game has taken a new level.The fact that the Warriors had 30,000 for two trial games is amazing.With the other code struggling to get 10,000.

How is our time coming, exactly?

I am 30 and the Aussies have licked us by and large for my entire lifetime. There is no signal that is about to change.

This has been debated over and over, but until teams give promising youngsters a chance - for example look at Saints 19 man squad which has 16 out of 19 British players - we are screwed.

not so lon ago Wigan was supplying star players in the backs for GB. Lydon, Gregory, Robinson, Connolly, Edwards etc. Granted not all were raised by the club, but they were British. Look at their backline now. not one GB player as a first choice.

Of course it is not always as easy as that. The clubs need strong links with junior level rugby and the relationship with the BARLA clubs has always been terse.

Clubs are moving in the right direction in terms of hwo they are running their 'business,' but they need to get the development strategy right.

It's called having faith son faith.

which is more likely to happen in our lifetimes :

1. cure for cancer
2. 2nd coming of christ
3. man traveling to mars
4. england beating australia in a test series

thoughts

5.Australia beating nz, the best team in the world.

google the results between the 2005 Tri Nations win and the 2008 WC win to see how many times NZ beat australia in that period.

and we dont mind lending out our coaches to england or NZ.

we are here to help you guys catch up

ahh, so its only finals that australia can't beat NZ over 80 mins

anyone would think they were chokers

Number 2's rather dependant on whether or not you believe there was ever a first coming.

Sorry to be pedantic but its 4 nations this year not tri nations, france are involved too

What would it mean for the game over here?

Probably f*ck all - certainly nothing on the scale that accompanied the England World Cup win of 2003 or run to the final in 2007.

There would be a short-lived rise in publicity and recognition which would tail off again once the Six Nations and the business end of the football season came around.

Funnily enough, I've just purchased seats on the next flight to Mars from a man with a beard wearing a long gown

those comments could apply to england beating australia in a series as well.

did it really happen?

and on the seat in the next aisle is the RLWC trophy with England winners 2169 etched in it

if we are talikng about nations that can win it, it should be called the dual nations

the answer is never.

it also featured a 50 point blowout.

one off wins are fine and dandy but being regularly competitive with australia is tough for NZ, let alone england.

to improve the format of the Quad nations i suggest it copy the RLWC format of a Super Pool to avoid blowouts

Pool 1 can be the NRL pool - Aus vs NZ
Pool 2 can be the SL pool - France vs England

avoids blowout scores and also improves englands chances of making the final

well when your best players arent playing and arent released by australian clubs what do you expect?

one off wins are very good when they are in finals, and the facts are Australia have failed to beat NZ over 80 mins in a final since the 2000 world cup

yeah and its not as if aussie sides have had their best players out for years either.

not winning any games for 3 years is normally considered a sign of failure

but compared to the "achievements" of the english team they are clearly above that

whereas winning a tri-nations, taking the other to extra time and a world cup shows them as the more successful team,

are australia the st helens of international RL?

While the RFL treats the club game as much more important than the international game (hosting the major club events at grounds like Wembley, Twickers, Millenium Stadium, Old Trafford and Murrayfield, but international games at the Stoop, Keepmoat, Wigan, Hull, Headingley, Huddersfield etc) then the impact of an international series win will be very minimal. Anyone but Leeds, Saints, Wigan and Bradford winning both trophies, or even just the Grand Final, at club level will do more for the game at the moment.

winning the odd game is fine enough i guess.

regular competition would be nicer.

there were times there when NZ were truly terrible

the reason why international RL is a joke is becaue people make such a big deal about australia having one off day in the office they are that far ahead of the rest.

theres a test in may in this year. i hope australia dont win by 20 or so as usually happens.

it would be nice expecting competition for every game rather than minor miracles when australia lose.

No it was Great Britain. Which I think we should be called BTW!!!!

everyone else does, Australia havent won two of the last three international competitions they have competed in,

NZ have won 2 of the last 3 international competitions they have been involved in and only lost the other in extra time,

they are, right now, the premier international side in RL, they are the best of the best, and Australia are 2nd best

I agree