Yep well we're then into the issue of how the officials uphold the rules! I think most people are agreed on that the TJ's need to give the ref more/better help.

There also seems to be a habit at the moment of refs giving another set of 6 everytime a kick hits an opposition player, when in many cases they havent played at the ball. It seems the default position seems to be to give an extra set. Which comes back to old Uncle Stu, our friendly Match Officials Director, recently relocated to the south of France.

Making a movement towards the ball (even before it is in the air off the kicker's foot) is now treated as "playing" at it IIRC.

So if you take a few steps forward out of the defensive line to close the kicker down in case he chooses to run it and he then subsequently smacks the ball straight at you, the attacking team gets another set of six if they can recover it.

A ludicrous interpretation IMO, which sees players who are virtually stood still with their back to the kicker being classed as having made a charge down.

Someone needs to get Starbug to sit down and watch some drop goal attempts frame by frame. I'm guessing that in the majority you'll find at least one frame (so that's what - 1/32 of a second?) where the ball is on the floor and not in contact with the kicker's foot. Presumably in his world those are all knock-ons?

dropkick - (football) kicking (as for a field goal) in which the football is dropped and kicked as it touches the ground

Your definition is incorrect. The one I pasted is correct.
It was clearly a knock-on by Maguire.
Tomkins, in tackling Maguire by the arms, caused him to drop it. Quick thinking Maguire, then put his foot to it.

Errm, no.

Not sure where your version comes from, but the laws of the game state

"DROP KICK is a kick whereby the ball is dropped from the hands (or
hand) and is kicked immediately it rebounds from the
ground."

which is what the OP said.

Grammatically, as it touches and immediately do not mean the same but when I played and drop-kicked the ball I always tried to kick it at the same time or immediately it rebounds which are a millisecond apart.
I certainly never dropped it on the floor, like Maguire, about 15 centimetres from my foot and then kicked it.
We all know what a drop-kick is and I can't understand posters who say it was a drop-kick.

I googled 'definition of a drop-kick' and that's where I got my definition from.

I thought there would be more discussion of the Carmont forward pass or the Leeds' taking out of Richards off the ball which were both overlooked.

Whilst I agree that Mcguire knocked on, I think you'll find that Tompkins actually tackled him whilst he was attempting a grubber kick.

A good move by a good stand-off prevented by a timely tackle from a good full back.

Which McGuire didnt do , so it wasn't a drop kick of any description

My only question would be "Why have we needed 7 pages to convince some people that he DID actually knock on". If they are struggling with such a simple scenario then they are surely watching the wrong sport.

ahem

McGuire's worst effort was the dreadful 'tackle' attempt he made in the first half on his own line which enabled Wigan to score on the right wing when they started off with fewer players than the Leeds defence down the right. The fact that he messed up a more high-risk play later in the game is relatively minor. Assuming Leeds had a decent coach, I know which event I'd be more bothered about.

Anybody read what Martyn Sadler said in the League Express?

(I haven't but ive been told of an interesting point about the DK rule)

Finally a decent view from a Leeds fan. Pointed this out earlier. His tackle effort was shocking, actually, it was laughable.

He did drop the ball though, how anyone can argue against it is beyond me.

Well as it has just been stated on GMR that Stuart Cummings (head of referees I believe) has said that the try should have stood, a lot of humble pie all round on this thread

This from GH

"The Wigan club is justifiably a proud club, with a great tradition, and a club which above all values its reputation for right and fair dealing in everything it does."

"For these reasons I shall be inviting the Wigan Warriors to do the right thing again now, for the benefit of their own reputation certainly, but also for the good of the great game of rugby league, to voluntarily hand over to Leeds Rhinos what is, as the whole game now acknowledges, rightfully ours - the two points so cruelly taken from us by Mr Ganson's failure to act."

So Mr Cummings admits that one half of his (now defunct) dream team doesn't know the rules?

RESIGN!

Heard it.Cummings said that had the ball sailed between the posts Leeds would have been awarded a point for a drop goal.

I've a feeling this thread is about to become busy again

So is he going to give up all th points Leeds have scored off forward passes ?

They'd still be looking fir their 1 st SL win

Why do you think Cummins no longer ' refs ' ?

I did figure some idiot wouldnt get it. It seems we have our idiot.

Explain away ?

So a try that results from an unintended drop kick is against the rules but a goal from an unintended drop kick is fine?Hmmmm.

At a guess, it's a mickey take of the Bradford chairman's whinge after MM07!

Which if it was would explain why I didn't get the ' joke '

maybe if I had included an outdated racial stereotype you would have understood?