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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"I can only speak for myself but if it was GH who was in Cater's position, I'd very much put it down to what I said before, he's doing his job for the RFL. GH like Carter has shown he's got a good reputation and GH is a very good Chairman of Leeds, who's done an awesome job there, someone that I actually respect in the game and so wouldn't be jumping to all kinds of dodgy scenarios. obviously, you have different feelings about carter. If this was GH, you and the rest of the Leeds posters would be doing exactly the same as the Trinity posters are, you'd be lying to say otherwise.
Also, let's be honest before the Bradford fan brought it up on this thread, hardly anyone outside the bulls gave a monkeys about it.'"
We don’t know if GH would take the same course of action as Carter if he was in the same position right now. I do know GH has had plenty of critics from opposition fans throughout his time for his views, actions and opinions to the point he’s almost become a pantomime villain for some. Some of that is fair game, sometimes it’s overexaggerated. Whilst you personally may respect him you can’t say that’s true for many fans from other clubs who see him as manipulative and dodgy in nearly every issue.
But also the same can be said of Leeds’ fans towards him, it’s far from an “GH is always right” view at Headingley or that they don’t see through him working things Leeds way, it’s one of the reasons he has certain nicknames even amongst Leeds fans.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"IF (and it's a big if) Odsal was being off loaded on the cheap, why not have a pop.
If I had more than a few gold bottle tops, I might have thought about it
Remember, the iconic stadium, with it's peppercorn rent was "bought" for 700k ?? and then rented back to Braford at "market price" - due to it's "iconic status" and all done to artificially pump cash into the cash strapped club.
This was wrong at the time, effectively gifting the club a huge amount of cash.
It proved not enough to save the Bulls at the time and what would be wrong, would be for them to receive yet another "gift", were the lease to be given back to them on the cheap.
At the risk of stirring the Odsal pot further, just how much is the "commercial rent" on such an iconic ground ?'"
Depends which rumour you believe, although the one about a 'rent holiday' until the Bulls got back on their feet could make the actual amount pretty irrelevant.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"We don’t know............./..............I do know'"
eye, s'about the size of it
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| Bradford’s is hardly an iconic stadium! Who has called it that? It’s on a par with wakefields!
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| Carter has commented on his social media that the article is widely inaccurate and I know who I believe out of him and chalmers who left a sea of debt behind him in failed businesses in NZ.
Also there was an article that inferred that ken Davy was interested and possibly offering 1m
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Carter has commented on his social media that the article is widely inaccurate and I know who I believe out of him and chalmers who left a sea of debt behind him in failed businesses in NZ.
Also there was an article that inferred that ken Davy was interested and possibly offering 1m'"
Absolutely. I would also believe a chairman who told all and sundry 2017 would be the last season at belle vie definitely
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Carter has commented on his social media that the article is widely inaccurate and I know who I believe out of him and chalmers who left a sea of debt behind him in failed businesses in NZ.'"
Does he give an alternative version of events?
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"Absolutely. I would also believe a chairman who told all and sundry 2017 would be the last season at belle vie definitely'"
You mean the very astute chairman who forced the landlord to reduce his over inflated rent by threatening to walk away
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"You mean the very astute chairman who forced the landlord to reduce his over inflated rent by threatening to walk away'"
No I mean the chairman who told all and sundry that 2017 would definitely be the last season at belle vue. Why quote my post if you didn’t even read it lol
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Does he give an alternative version of events?'"
No but probably doesn’t think having a public spat about it is worth it. There is no mention of ken Davy in chalmers little rant despite the inference he is interested in the lease
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"No I mean the chairman who told all and sundry that 2017 would definitely be the last season at belle vue. Why quote my post if you didn’t even read it lol'"
I was putting an alternative spin on your comment and one more accurate than anything you normally post when it relates to Wakefield
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"I was putting an alternative spin on your comment and one more accurate than anything you normally post when it relates to Wakefield'"
Please tell me what is inaccurate about me stating Carter said 2017 would be the last season at Belle Vue. Go on, tell me because I will just post all the media links where he said it. Moron
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"Please tell me what is inaccurate about me stating Carter said 2017 would be the last season at Belle Vue. Go on, tell me because I will just post all the media links where he said it. Moron'"
Fill your boots and whilst your at it, bring up those posts where you said under your previous user name you would never post again if wakey made the top 8 (or something similar) yet here you are still trolling away
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"No but probably doesn’t think having a public spat about it is worth it. There is no mention of ken Davy in chalmers little rant despite the inference he is interested in the lease'"
That will be because Hudgell and Carter were mentioned in the trade press last week - with Mr Chalmers giving an opinion,which was printed,on Saturday.
Mr Davy was mentioned in the RLE this morning.
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| Quote ="Ornery Optimist"That will be because Hudgell and Carter were mentioned in the trade press last week - with Mr Chalmers giving an opinion,which was printed,on Saturday.
Mr Davy was mentioned in the RLE this morning.'"
I will await his rant at ken Davy with interest then
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"No but probably doesn’t think having a public spat about it is worth it.'"
But Carter didn’t mind having a public spat when Bradford were appealing their points deduction in 2014 even claiming he’d quit Rugby League altogether if Bradford were successful and going public with his criticisms of other clubs agreeing to and then backing out of reserve teams this off season and saying teams shouldn’t be allowed marquee signings.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"But Carter didn’t mind having a public spat when Bradford were appealing their points deduction in 2014 even claiming he’d quit Rugby League altogether if Bradford were successful and going public with his criticisms of other clubs agreeing to and then backing out of reserve teams this off season and saying teams shouldn’t be allowed marquee signings.'"
And what was wrong with those rants, thought he was correct on both counts.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"But Carter didn’t mind having a public spat when Bradford were appealing their points deduction in 2014 even claiming he’d quit Rugby League altogether if Bradford were successful and going public with his criticisms of other clubs agreeing to and then backing out of reserve teams this off season and saying teams shouldn’t be allowed marquee signings.'"
On the Bradford points deduction he was seeking to ensure fair treatment and the RFL sticking to their rules - I am sure you would advocate that as being reasonable
He said teams shouldn’t be allowed marquee signings if they weren’t willing to run reserve sides - who believes he is wrong in that view?
Chalmers has made personal attacks on carter and hudgell which is somewhat different and he does not appear to be in full possession of the facts.
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| Quote ="Wakefield City"And what was wrong with those rants, thought he was correct on both counts.'"
Why go public when it suits and on this occasion just say “it’s inaccurate” without offering more?
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Why go public when it suits and on this occasion just say “it’s inaccurate” without offering more?'"
Chalmers has made this personal with his comments. Carters were general comments around the other two issues. There is a difference
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"We don’t know if GH would take the same course of action as Carter if he was in the same position right now. I do know GH has had plenty of critics from opposition fans throughout his time for his views, actions and opinions to the point he’s almost become a pantomime villain for some. Some of that is fair game, sometimes it’s overexaggerated. Whilst you personally may respect him you can’t say that’s true for many fans from other clubs who see him as manipulative and dodgy in nearly every issue.
But also the same can be said of Leeds’ fans towards him, it’s far from an “GH is always right” view at Headingley or that they don’t see through him working things Leeds way, it’s one of the reasons he has certain nicknames even amongst Leeds fans.'"
Point is no one knows what Carter is doing anyway, do we?
On GH, I obviously don't follow the every day in and outs of your club, so wouldn't know all the details as a Leeds fan would & I know other teams like to have a go about certain things. But from what I see and hear from him, he's a very passionate RL man, who knows his stuff and is generally in it for the good of the game & he's obviously worked wonders at Leeds. Can't say any more than that really but just to add I don't know many Trinity fans who generally don't like GH either.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Chalmers has made this personal with his comments. Carters were general comments around the other two issues. There is a difference'"
Exactly, Chalmers has been very public about talking crap about him and our Club, the guys acts unprofessionally, to say the least IMO with his little T&A articles. As I've said before why doesn't he get a pair and get in touch with Carter about this instead of rabble-rousing?
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Exactly, Chalmers has been very public about talking crap about him and our Club, the guys acts unprofessionally, to say the least IMO with his little T&A articles. As I've said before why doesn't he get a pair and get in touch with Carter about this instead of rabble-rousing?'"
Whilst Carter doesn’t name names we all know who he’s aiming at with his criticisms of marquee signings and not running reserves, at Chalmers has it in him to be direct unlike Carter. And coming out publicly saying he’d quit RL if Bradford were successful in their points deduction appeal......I mean Wakey fans mock Lebron for the exact same kind of claim.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Can't say any more than that really but just to add I don't know many Trinity fans who generally don't like GH either.'"
You personally may like GH, but that sentence above is laughable. GH is disliked by most clubs and Wakey fans are at the top of that list.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"You personally may like GH, but that sentence above is laughable. GH is disliked by most clubs and Wakey fans are at the top of that list.'"
I don't agree with that.
GH has done a lot of good in the game. I have never heard his name even mentioned at a game or with my friends in a particularly bad way.
He's just vocal on his opinions so draws opinion the other way.
Merry Christmas by the way TP. Hope you got all you wished for today
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