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| Quote ="Jason65"so after reviewing the game there was 4 instances of foul play by Wigan ,1 results in a lengthy ban (deserved).
6 instances by St Helens 1 resulting in a ban (deserved) .
That sums it up.'"
You've forgot to add the Wigan Thugby Tolerance factor though of 0.5, quite suprised ISA kept his cool and behaved himself. I,m assuming the coach Peet is trying to reduce the amount of grubiness in his team and will take time to switch those Wigoon Players brain cells.
P.S. Saw your post that you deleted by the way, that was a good move.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"You've forgot to add the Wigan Thugby Tolerance factor though of 0.5, quite suprised ISA kept his cool and behaved himself. I,m assuming the coach Peet is trying to reduce the amount of grubiness in his team and will take time to switch those Wigoon Players brain cells.
P.S. Saw your post that you deleted by the way, that was a good move.'"
I didnt delete anything it was done for me,thanks for your concern.
Stains are the bench mark everyone agrees,but you always jump on Wigan with relish and cannot stop your self from insulting anything to do with wigan.
Why bring Willie into this as this was about last friday with Stains being cited more than Wigan accept it your players were the biggest culprits in this game.
Stains have had more players banned this season so far than Wigan so you could be on the way to being a grubby outfit.
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| Quote ="Jason65"so after reviewing the game there was 4 instances of foul play by Wigan ,1 results in a lengthy ban (deserved).
6 instances by St Helens 1 resulting in a ban (deserved) .
That sums it up.'"
From the game between Leeds and hudds, Leeds had 6 players cited, hudds had zero.
Of Those 4/6 were for late hits on The the passer / kicker, (incidentally all on the same player)……… so clearly Leeds had a less than squeaky clean game plan to hit fages, it was more than obvious during the game- he didn’t remain on his feet once after kicking at the end of a set. This in itself should result in some sort of club warning, if as the RFL keep saying we are all about protecting players. That’s what Leeds have now resorted to in desperation to get a point.
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| Quote ="jools"From the game between Leeds and hudds, Leeds had 6 players cited, hudds had zero.
Of Those 4/6 were for late hits on The the passer / kicker, (incidentally all on the same player)……… so clearly Leeds had a less than squeaky clean game plan to hit fages, it was more than obvious during the game- he didn’t remain on his feet once after kicking at the end of a set. This in itself should result in some sort of club warning, if as the RFL keep saying we are all about protecting players. That’s what Leeds have now resorted to in desperation to get a point.'"
If they only did late hits on your kicker then yes the team needs a warning, really obvious dont you think.
reminds of the time stains players went for the standing leg of the player,thankfully that stopped.
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| Quote ="Jason65"If they only did late hits on your kicker then yes the team needs a warning, really obvious dont you think.
reminds of the time stains players went for the standing leg of the player,thankfully that stopped.'"
Well he’s not playing Monday so looks like their tactics definitely had an impact. I would imagine if he could he would be playing against his old club.
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| Quote ="Wanderer"It was an awful 'tackle' and there will surely be a ban but to suggest Powell 'tried to end a young kids career' is just inflammatory.'"
There is absolutely no other reason to do what he did, other than to cause serious injury.
That’s the reason those tackles are banned
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"There is absolutely no other reason to do what he did, other than to cause serious injury.
That’s the reason those tackles are banned'"
Well Hurrell got a ban did the a crusher tackle is it because he intended to cause serious injury.
Thats the reason those tackles are banned
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"There is absolutely no other reason to do what he did, other than to cause serious injury.
That’s the reason those tackles are banned'"
Believe what you want but you still can't prove intent.
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| Quote ="Jason65"Well Hurrell got a ban did the a crusher tackle is it because he intended to cause serious injury.
Thats the reason those tackles are banned'"
Big difference between the Hurrell one and the Powell one, the Hurrell one didn't really show intent and left space for head movement thats why he only got a 2 match ban.
The Powell one was horrendouson on Bennison, he was already tackled around the legs and Powell just needed to lay on to slow the ruck. Instead he picked him up and then slammed him down almost snapping his neck, his only defence will be a brain fart but the disciplinary will probably judge it very serious and a 6 match ban minimum.
Some of the Wigoon fans are saying he deserves an 8 match ban.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Big difference between the Hurrell one and the Powell one, the Hurrell one didn't really show intent and left space for head movement thats why he only got a 2 match ban.
The Powell one was horrendouson on Bennison, he was already tackled around the legs and Powell just needed to lay on to slow the ruck. Instead he picked him up and then slammed him down almost snapping his neck, his only defence will be a brain fart but the disciplinary will probably judge it very serious and a 6 match ban minimum.
Some of the Wigoon fans are saying he deserves an 8 match ban.'"
I dont think you understand as your hatred is corrupting your brain,
They both were crusher tackles one far worse than the other and will get dealt as it should be upto 8 matches I agree with.
So as the other one deserved a 2 match ban obviously he was not trying to break his neck you and your demented stain fans would have us believe the other one would mean he was trying to injure him just maybe miss a few matches to use the same analogy.
Dont you get it we are in agreement about the severity of the ban.
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| Quote ="Jason65"I dont think you understand as your hatred is corrupting your brain,
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I don't have any hatred or bias against Wigan, I,m not all that bothered who beats them........I would say its more of an amusing nature. Most of my mates are from Wigan most are true Wigan Fans and one Wigoon Fan, the latter attracts my attention the former is banter.
Yoy do seem to be out of sync with situations at times and that includes with your fans. On your website you originally posted suggesting the Powell was not all that bad, there were quite a few Wigan fans saying different on a more serious note. You then edited your original post and removed the "not all that bad" part of the post.
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| You have to smile when one of the commentators said, about Powell, "he's not that kind of player" ??
Clearly he IS that kind of player. Whatever it was that caused him to do something stupid, it was Powell and Powell alone that chose to put in a "crusher" and it seems ridiculous that he will be playing for Wigan today (and that it wasn't a straight red).
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"You have to smile when one of the commentators said, about Powell, "he's not that kind of player" ??
Clearly he IS that kind of player. Whatever it was that caused him to do something stupid, it was Powell and Powell alone that chose to put in a "crusher" and it seems ridiculous that he will be playing for Wigan today (and that it wasn't a straight red).'"
I think maybe the big occasion brings out "that kind pf player" in him, correct me if I am wrong I seem to remember he had a short history of attacking the knee joint a few seasons back. Maybe something is dormant in him to do this kind of stuff because generally he is just a tackler and doesn't do anything special or creative compared to other no 9's.
Hopefully Matty Peet sorts it out, seems a decent coach wanting to play more Rugby and reduce any Thugby intentions.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"
No I didnt,and I am not out of sinc as you like to say ,
some of my mates are Saints fans I only am in contact with a Stain
Just like when you said I deleted a post/posts I didnt so stop lying to get your point across.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"
Who is this Wigan fan (wigoon as you like to put it) because if it is me I must be the second one as you have been calling someone else for years.
Also I agreed on anything upto 8 match ban is possible,not out of sync.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"
What I said was I dont think it was nasty but deserved a ban ,upto 8matches.
So yes should be banned.
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| Quote ="Jason65" :1xa6m0hbWho is this Wigan fan (wigoon as you like to put it)
No its one of my Wigan mates who I accused of being Newtons love child, my wigoon mate loves all this thugby stuff and we find his comments hilarious especially when I tell him he isn't a Wigan Fan he is a sort of a Wigoon Fan.
The original Wigoons Fan term was founded by Wigan Athletic Fans when they were in the Premiership and certain rugby fans wanted them to get relegated and go bust so that there is only one team in Wigan.
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| Ok no problem judder,love banter even the irritating ones
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| Quote ="Judder Man"
You may not ‘hate’ Wigan but your bias and determination to find fault shine through.
99% of posters on the Wigan forum agree that the Powell crusher was a bad one and worthy of a long ban. All teams have the odd loose cannon amongst their fans. It was the worst crusher I’ve seen since Ferres on Gildart (for which he got 6 games and ruled Gildart out for months). He may have intended it, he may of just been trying to slam him to the floor and got it wrong. We can’t judge that, only Powell will know. Either way he at least had the decency to apologise. When Maguire came to Wigan Powell was a bit of a grub but he has removed that from his game. He made a mistake for which he will rightly get punished.
Take your comment about Smithies for example, him and Knowles were like two rooking stags, both as bad as each other. You can’t reasonably criticise one and not the other.
As the disciplinary proves St Helens were the grubbier team on Friday with 6 instances of foul play to Wigan’s 4.
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Smithies was leading with the head most of the game and it wasn’t just with Knowles it was with others. I,m pretty sure he had form for head butting and a crusher tackle and got punished for it. There was also an instance of putting his studs on Lussicks head which for some reason didn’t get picked up by the disciplinary maybe Ben Flower was on the panel over the weekend.
https://www.totalrl.com/morgan-smithies ... y-charges/
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Smithies was leading with the head most of the game and it wasn’t just with Knowles it was with others. I,m pretty sure he had form for head butting and a crusher tackle and got punished for it. There was also an instance of putting his studs on Lussicks head which for some reason didn’t get picked up by the disciplinary maybe Ben Flower was on the panel over the weekend.
https://www.totalrl.com/morgan-smithies ... y-charges/
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| Quote ="Judder Man"
Why post a link from 2020? A disciplinary charge from 2 years ago has no relevance.
Smithies went to far to often when he first broke into the team, he has since matured a bit and generally controls his aggression well.
My point remains, you can’t reasonably single out a Wigan player for an incident without acknowledging the St Helens player was equally at fault. As I said, two rooking stags. The panels conclusion was ‘’Player is wriggling to get out of the tackle. No projecting of the head or definitive head butt’’.
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| Quote ="Trainman"Quote ="Judder Man"
Why post a link from 2020? A disciplinary charge from 2 years ago has no relevance.
Smithies went to far to often when he first broke into the team, he has since matured a bit and generally controls his aggression well.
My point remains, you can’t reasonably single out a Wigan player for an incident without acknowledging the St Helens player was equally at fault. As I said, two rooking stags. The panels conclusion was ‘’Player is wriggling to get out of the tackle. No projecting of the head or definitive head butt’’.'" '"
The 2 players wouldnt back down and so they shouldnt,nothing in it as per the panel
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| Quote ="Wanderer"Believe what you want but you still can't prove intent.'"
lol ok m8
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| I see the obligitory ban for a Saints player has been used again. It's so consistent they could probably base the interest rates on it.
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