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| good to see the large amount of english players in the squad, but lets be realistic, i'd be very suprised if the squad players from 20-33 manage a dozen SL games between them all
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Indeed. Just saying that I remember Brown mentioning recently that his squad isn't complete for next season.'"
If it isn't, their squad number will be after the comp winner.
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| Quote ="number 6"good to see the large amount of english players in the squad, but lets be realistic, i'd be very suprised if the squad players from 20-33 manage a dozen SL games between them all'"
In 2009 Shaun Lunt had squad number 24, Cudjoe had 21 - both England internationals by 2010. Lunt was regarded as our best player in the CC final.
in 2010 Larne Patrick had 23 and played about 21 games only being out through injury. Our player of the season last year was David Faiumu who had squad number 20.
Players are generally given their chances and it's up to them to take them.
Although I agree with your sentiment that the squad does think out quicker as you get higher than in previous years.
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| Don't most teams only have a 23 or 24 man 1st team squad?
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Don't most teams only have a 23 or 24 man 1st team squad?'"
From 2010 Season: (based on Squads listed on SLStats website)
32 - Bradford
31 - Castleford
30 - Catalans
27 - Crusaders
34 - Huddersfield
33 - Harlequins
28 - Hull FC
31 - Hull KR
28 - Leeds
33 - Saints
28 - Salford
35 - Wakefield
28 - Warrington
31 - Wigan
So in a word....'No'
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| Quote ="Wadski"From 2010 Season: (based on Squads listed on SLStats website)
32 - Bradford
31 - Castleford
30 - Catalans
27 - Crusaders
34 - Huddersfield
33 - Harlequins
28 - Hull FC
31 - Hull KR
28 - Leeds
33 - Saints
28 - Salford
35 - Wakefield
28 - Warrington
31 - Wigan
So in a word....'No''"
A little miss leading regarding cas as we had ainscough, wood, tuson and cooper on loan included in that.
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| Quote ="pyeman"A little miss leading regarding cas as we had ainscough, wood, tuson and cooper on loan included in that.'"
There are loads of holes mate, players loaned out as well as in. Players who never played a senior game etc could be argued but these are the squad listings on the site therefore were counted. The point is that clubs don't have 23-25 man squads nowadays.
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| Quote ="Wadski"From 2010 Season: (based on Squads listed on SLStats website)
32 - Bradford
31 - Castleford
30 - Catalans
27 - Crusaders
34 - Huddersfield
33 - Harlequins
28 - Hull FC
31 - Hull KR
28 - Leeds
33 - Saints
28 - Salford
35 - Wakefield
28 - Warrington
31 - Wigan
So in a word....'No''"
They do really. A lot of clubs just list academy players I guess to save paperwork in case they are called up to the first team along the line.
I really can't see there being 35 players at a first team training session for example. I might be wrong though.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"They do really. A lot of clubs just list academy players I guess to save paperwork in case they are called up to the first team along the line.
I really can't see there being 35 players at a first team training session for example. I might be wrong though.'"
I drive past Leeds Road playing fields to Uni on a morning and often see the Giants first team training there, I'd say usually there is around 30 players taking part in training
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| It is great to see so many on the team. I think that they really do have a good shot at being a decent team. I did not realize that Warrington was on the squad. What do you guys know about him?
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| I’m just pleased that Giants have a competitive team at long last. How many years of mediocre performances was it before 2006?
The bonus of all this has been the emergence of good prospects for the England international squad.
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| Looking forward to seeing Grix getting a run of SL games at full back. He was very good for us there.
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Shame it wont last
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=478005
Not a single one from Hudds! Or is that part of the plan? Let other clubs develop them and then flash the cheque book again?
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Shame it wont last
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=478005
Not a single one from Hudds! Or is that part of the plan? Let other clubs develop them and then flash the cheque book again?
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Quote ="who needs flankers?"Shame it wont last
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=478005
Not a single one from Hudds! Or is that part of the plan? Let other clubs develop them and then flash the cheque book again?'"
I don't think that's necessary - we have a England Centre who's gone through the academy, we have Elliot Hodgson, Micheal Lawrence and many more young players that have come through OUR academy.
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Not a single one from Hudds! Or is that part of the plan? Let other clubs develop them and then flash the cheque book again?'"
I don't think that's necessary - we have a England Centre who's gone through the academy, we have Elliot Hodgson, Micheal Lawrence and many more young players that have come through OUR academy.
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Quote ="Conorgiantsfan"I don't think that's necessary - we have a England Centre who's gone through the academy, we have Elliot Hodgson, Micheal Lawrence and many more young players that have come through OUR academy.'"
I see the cheque book is out and the season hasn't even started yet
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 336877.stm
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I see the cheque book is out and the season hasn't even started yet
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 336877.stm
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Cheque book?! - how very 70's.
Which SL clubs have signed full time players that play without payment?
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Cheque book?! - how very 70's.
Which SL clubs have signed full time players that play without payment?
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| I quite like how jealous supporters are desperately looking at ways to have a pop or a dig at the Giants.
Top effort I say. During the course of the season these lads will get the opportunities and those that don't will at least benefit from training in a full-time professional environment.
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| Quote ="cadoo"I quite like how jealous supporters are desperately looking at ways to have a pop or a dig at the Giants. '"
Not everyone can be as diplomatic and righteous as you are cadoo.
Are Hudds the club you are supporting this month?
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Not everyone can be as diplomatic and righteous as you are cadoo.
Are Hudds the club you are supporting this month?'"
I don't think that's very fair.
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| Quote ="Conorgiantsfan"I don't think that's very fair.'"
No it's fair and he's right too.
Not everyone can be as righteous and diplomatic as me, but that would be going off topic and derailing the thread unnecessarily.
Back on topic, I hope that Luke Robinson can kick on at hooker after his impressive displays in an England shirt. A very talented player and one I would have love to have seen come through at Wigan during this period under Mike maguire and Shaun Wane. Interesting to note that Leroy Cudjoe has been given the number three shirt. Here's hoping we'll finally get a decent British centre.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Don't most teams only have a 23 or 24 man 1st team squad?'"
It's all irrelevant TBF.
They are only alotted numbers. It doesnt mean the players, say numbers 25 and over, earn more. And there's a good likelyhood that if you have a 31 man named squad that 5 or 6 of the players will never see the 1st grade.
Saying that at Leeds this year we have a 31 man squad and I wouldnt mind seeing the majority get game time at some point because of the quality down there.
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| Quick question to Giants fans.
What do you think to Cudjoe playing Wing/centre? When I first saw him a few years ago I thought he would go on to become the England Full backin 3 or 4 years but his path seems to have been changed now. Obviously I only see him when you play Leeds and when you are on sky but is the 3/4 line his best position?
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Quick question to Giants fans.
What do you think to Cudjoe playing Wing/centre? When I first saw him a few years ago I thought he would go on to become the England Full backin 3 or 4 years but his path seems to have been changed now. Obviously I only see him when you play Leeds and when you are on sky but is the 3/4 line his best position?'"
I like him at FB to be honest but last 2 years hes more or less made the centre/wing positions his own due to Brett being here
Think we still have 2 spots left to fill if we do get round to it so if we are after the Souths centre then we could see Leroy back at FB this year anyway, depends on if and who we fill the last 2 spots with, not been any talk in the local paper recently bout getting anyone in, couple of pieces on the Aus centre (not Champion) but nothing concrete, ask again in March
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| I say good on the Giants. Can only be good for the international team and other teams may follow.
Still buggers for pinching Wardle though
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Quick question to Giants fans.
What do you think to Cudjoe playing Wing/centre? When I first saw him a few years ago I thought he would go on to become the England Full backin 3 or 4 years but his path seems to have been changed now. Obviously I only see him when you play Leeds and when you are on sky but is the 3/4 line his best position?'"
I think he got the #3 jersey simply because he was an England Centre in 2010. I see it as a toss up between Lawrence and Cudjoe who is centre and who is wing and it will get mixed around again this year during matches.
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