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| The most pathetic of all. Only 5 posts in as well.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"In answer to the question, I'd say that punching a player twice above the eye whist he is pinned to the floor would probably do it.'"
Did you watch the Saints match? Mr Wellens did just that and stayed on the field.
I haven't seen the Bailey-Radford incident yet.
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| Quote ="marshman"Did you watch the Saints match? Mr Wellens did just that and stayed on the field.
I haven't seen the Bailey-Radford incident yet.'"
If it wasn't Bailey involved, there wouldn't be 15 pages on the incident.
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| Quote ="Mark_W"If it wasn't Bailey involved, there wouldn't be 15 pages on the incident.'"
[url=http://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=464874&start=0&hilit=ablett+tomkins8 pages here[/url + [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=464939&start=0&hilit=ablett+tomkins7 pages here[/url = 15 pages on the incident involving Carl Ablett. Now, unless I'm mistaken, and they're actually talking about Bailey, your entire point would be complete b*llocks!
Doesn't matter if it's Bailey or not, if someone's gotten away with something, it'll get a long discussion! Radford didn't get away with it, which is why no-one is talking about him.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"[url=http://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=464874&start=0&hilit=ablett+tomkins8 pages here[/url + [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=464939&start=0&hilit=ablett+tomkins7 pages here[/url = 15 pages on the incident involving Carl Ablett. Now, unless I'm mistaken, and they're actually talking about Bailey, your entire point would be complete b*llocks!
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Erm, that was a different incident, so your point is complete b*llocks. If Ablett was the player being tackled in this instance, Radford wouldn't have launced a load of punches at him, therefore there would be no discussion.
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| Quote ="GCM1980"Erm, that was a different incident, so your point is complete b*llocks. If Ablett was the player being tackled in this instance, Radford wouldn't have launced a load of punches at him, therefore there would be no discussion.'"
Thanks that was my point.
How many brawls/handbags have we seen over the season and how many of those result in a mass discussion on here? Not many. This is all because its SL's most hated player.
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| He is disliked because he offers nothing other than thuggery to the game, im not sure about some of you tards in Leeds but i found when i played the best way to gain ones feet was to place a hand down and stand up, if i wanted to milk a penalty i'd fall back down again. It never crossed my mind to lever my self up using my elbows on someones head in rapid succession, im not even sure it is possible to stand up in this manner!
The man is a waste of fresh air as are the RFL, who will no doubt again ignore Foul play by a Leeds player.
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| Why are people comparing it to the wellens incident. Does anyone honestly believe that it was not a red card to radford?
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| Quote ="Spongolium"Why are people comparing it to the wellens incident. Does anyone honestly believe that it was not a red card to radford?'"
Yes myself,
Eddie Hemmings
Barrie Mac
Terry O Connor
Robbie Paul
Iestyn Harris
Jamie Peacock (in a round about way)
Rich Agar
Just to name a few!!!!
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| Stop being stupid people, Bailey is a perfectly legitimate player, it is just all the opposition fans, journalists and players who have built up the Pantomime Villain mistique surrounding him, causing reiterated overreactions over nothing.
You can't possibly assume his involvement in the more thuggish situations on rugby pitches over the last few years to mean that he ever causes them, in fact it is always the fault of the other player.
Whilst we are on this wild goose chase, kicking out to the face and knocking a man out, or smashing a forearm into the face of a defenceless player are nowhere near the offences of attempting to block a kick by jumping or making contact with a player just as the ball leaves his hands. The evidence backs this up. Let it go, the officials have spoken.
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Thanks that was my point.
How many brawls/handbags have we seen over the season and how many of those result in a mass discussion on here? Not many. This is all because its SL's most hated player.'"
And why is that ?
Maybe it's because he is a thug and he seems to not be able to get through a game without doing something beyond the acceptable , but strangely he seems untouchable when going up in front of the disciplinary
As I have said on other threads , some club officials have far too much influence at the RFL IMO
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| Quote ="maximo"Yes myself,
Eddie Hemmings
Barrie Mac
Terry O Connor
Robbie Paul
Iestyn Harris
Jamie Peacock (in a round about way)
Rich Agar
Just to name a few!!!!'"
Why do you not think it was a red card? is punching not illegal?
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| Yes but not a red card offence.
Elbowing players is also an offence but like the Radford decision Ian Smith got it wrong
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| Quote ="GCM1980"Erm, that was a different incident, so your point is complete b*llocks. If Ablett was the player being tackled in this instance, Radford wouldn't have launced a load of punches at him, therefore there would be no discussion.'"
He wasn't on about Radford's reaction, he was on about everyone on here's reaction. 15 pages because it was about Bailey? Err... no. 15 pages because it was an unpunished incident, just like Carl Ablett. You can pretend it's because poor incident Bailey all you like, but it's not.
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| The mere fact anyone uses the word 'hate' about a player says it all. Childish beyond belief.
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| It isn't childish in the least, he is an incredibly unpleasant man and player. I doubt outside of the Leeds Rhinos you will find another player in the country who has any respect for the man.
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| Quote ="suedehead."It isn't childish in the least, he is an incredibly unpleasant man and player. I doubt outside of the Leeds Rhinos you will find another player in the country who has any respect for the man.'"
That attitude would be acceptable if Bailey ever caused a serious injury to an opposition player through a malicious tackle, but he never has, unlike players such as Sonny Nickle, Vila Matautia, Terry Newton, Brandon Costin, Andy Dannatt etc.
All he ever does is niggle - it is amazing so many people 'hate' him. Only one yellow card in his career as well. Chev Walker got a longer criminal sentence for that incident way back, but he is not vilified. Adrian Morley and Barrie McDermott built careers on their hard-man reputations (aka thuggery) and have done far worse to players from other teams. You have to wonder how much race does come into it.
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| unpleasant man?!! Do you know him then?
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| Quote ="Starbug"As I have said on other threads , some club officials have far too much influence at the RFL IMO'"
And despite being challenged on it in other threads, you've still to provide a single shred of evidence for your oft repeated "opinion", other than your usual stream of anti-Leeds bile. I look forward to you failing to do so again.
You and Leaguefan aren't related by any chance are you?
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"You have to wonder how much race does come into it.'"
Do you? Really??
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Andy Dannatt'" That's a random one.
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| Dannatt's not that random, it's based on him smashing Ellery Hanley's jaw with a premeditated elbow during a Hull-Leeds JPT game at The Boulevard.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Dannatt's not that random, it's based on him smashing Ellery Hanley's jaw with a premeditated elbow during a Hull-Leeds JPT game at The Boulevard.'" Fair enough, I'd not long started watching RL when Dannat signed for saints. I didn't really see other teams' games, though. That's probably why I don't remember.
As for Costin, if its the Long incedent you're referring to, there was nothing in it. Most Saints fans say the same.
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| Quote ="marshman"Did you watch the Saints match? Mr Wellens did just that and stayed on the field.
I haven't seen the Bailey-Radford incident yet.'"
So shouldn't the title fo the thread be changed then to "What do Saints have to do to get a player sent off"?
But I suppose that does not go with the anti Leeds biased agendas does it?
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"You have to wonder how much race does come into it.'"
Oh FFS, why are people that desperate to defend this man that they will clutch at as many straws as possible?
What makes anyone think race has anything to do with it, really? What race is Ben Cockayne? Because he's the same type of thuggish coward as Bailey on and off the pitch and everyone dislikes him as well.
"Iz it coz I iz black?!" No, it's because you're a thug!
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