1 major final appearance compared to Warrington's 7 in recent years.

For all the lauding of Holbrook can we compare his achievements with Steve Price? (This is Price's first season btw).

Taken Warrington from the middle 8s to both major finals.

Depends. If Wire end up losing both then there'll be the same questions asked about Price and his side's temperament as are being asked about Holbrook and Saints right now. However, if his boys lift the silverware then he'll (rightly) be regarded as having achieved something very special.

Poor record they have. Last 10 seasons they’ve reached 14 SF’s in Playoffs and the Cup and only have 1 trophy to show for it and Ben Flower gifted them that one.

Agree with the previous poster though, Price still needs to back it up with a win next week otherwise Warrington will have achieved the unwanted achievement of losing both major finals in a season twice in 3 seasons.

I don’t know about that. Nothing has been expected of us. I never expected to reach either final or even the top four never mind achieve all three. Our squad has a lot of re-building work to have done still. We lack in a lot of areas yet still overachieved in our coach’s first year.

I said at the start of the season that this year was a free hit, wherever happens happens as long we we get in the Super 8s.

A loss next week [ishould[/i happen really, Wigan and Cas have shown that they are consistently better than us over the course of the season and both would be favourites against us. A loss will be no disgrace and no questions should be asked.

A win and, as you say, it would be a very special achievement.

Great result for the Wire. Saints have been found out since teams realised they have a poor mans Graham Appo at fullback and a Jamie Foster clone at scrum half.

not really, this is still ostensibly smiths team, this year is a free hit in terms of whatever happens. After last year everything is a bonus

Don't think it should be thought of as a free hit. Wire haven’t won a GF and been a few years now for the CC. With the 2 teams who have dominated those competitions in recent years out of the picture this season then this year was/is a real opportunity to do something (like Catalans did)

It's so easy for you to say, after all, how many finals have Leeds, Wigan & St's been involved in over the last twenty years?

You as supporters have become so blase about getting to the G.F. & heaven forbid if you fail then it's been a poor season.

I would just like to see another group of supporters feel the elation that you must have felt on seeing your team lift the trophy for the first time in living memory, that is if you can remember? After all your success, it must have dimmed by now.

As for teams rolling over, Leeds haven't done a bad job this year mind.

Which 2 Teams are they?

no, no one was tipping us for anything this year, first season with a new coach instilling a new ethos after us being pathetic and ending up in the qualifiers, with a halfback marquee signing that had rumours about going home from pre season which ended up saying he wanted out. Losing the first 5 games of the season.

No one was expecting anything like what we've done so far, it's all a bonus.

I would suggest Hull (CC) and Leeds (GF)

Man for man, especially if you include Curry, you are as good as nearly any team in SL & should be up there competing.

we're only 2/3 bodies different to last year, and we were shocking last year as part of tony smith's post grand final malaise.

Charnley
Thompson
Roberts
Sita (prop)
Godwin
Massila
Pomeroy
Brown

Anymore?

Bit of a strong word to use then?
Dominate?

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I'm not disputing how crap you were. It could be argued Saints under fatty were almost as bad.

exactly thats the other third thats different

Thompson, Pomeroy and Brown have played about 10 games between them. They are squad players.

Charnley was brought in half way through the season. Thompson in the last few weeks.

Three recurits in Roberts, Sita and BMM during the off season.

Win or lose Price has done a very good job.

Two finals in year 1.

Not for me. I'd been following Leeds 28 years before the 2004 success and the hairs on my neck still stand up when I play the dvd. In an ideal world all RL fans would experience that, whether it be cc or gf, so good luck to wire & cas in particular (though I do think it'll be wane and wigan's year).

We like to have years off in between GF wins nowadays to let others have a chance

We did it in 2016 finishing 9th and still came back into Old Trafford and strolled away with our trophy again in 2017



Like I said it’s up to these other teams to stop the likes of Leeds and Wigan and if they can’t do it then so be it and who cares if others find it “boring”.

Probably yes but you get the general jist. Hull had been great in the cup in the previous 2 years and the team to beat in that competition and Leeds’ playoff/GF record is top notch. That neither got to the final 4 of those competitions opened the door a lot for a potential new-ish winner.

We’ve only got three props (Cooper, Hill and Philbin) who play any minutes. We’ve only got one true hooker who, granted, is an amazing player!

Our back row consists of Currie who could end up being world class but has played more games for England than he has Wire in the last two years, Hughes who had a blinding game last night but compared to Bateman and McMeekin (spelling?) he’s nowhere near, Westwood who’s a pudding now at 37 (but effective for to be fair to him), Livett who’s average as owt and Murdoch-Masilla who playing but isn’t fit.

Our halfbacks have been uncrrative all year with no real back ups.

Our wings and full back are very good and we’ve got good centres.

It’s an okay squad but it’s paper thin and an injury to most areas of the pitch and we drop in quality. Our back row is of such a quality that we’re bringing three new backrowers in for next season.

I honestly expected 5th-8th with what we have.

Couldn't comprehend Saints going for the 2 when they were winning by 3. Still a one score game, negative option. Seem to remember them doing something similar v Catalans in the cup semi as well