You confirmed my earlier assessment of you,

thanks for that..

Happy to be of service
Now you've confirmed it you can stfu can't you

It's a form of gamesmanship to pretend to ground the ball but then move inside to improve the angle for the goalkicker. It's possible for players to have a clear run at the line, be about to plant the ball and then realise there are no defenders nearby, and as a result move towards the posts before grounding the ball. That doesn't happen that often though.

If players get a reputation for feigning grounding the ball, then the opposition teams are going to get wind of this. The only way that a single player can realistically stop another player scoring when he's already over the line is a) knocking the ball out of his hands as he's attempting to ground it (see John Pendlebury vs. Mark Elia in the Challenge Cup final 1987!); b) somehow manage to get some part of their body under the ball (almost impossible 1 on 1); or c) whack him with a massive ball and all tackle to try and dislodge the ball.

The problem comes when said player (with reputation) does ground the ball but then saunters across the in-goal area celebrating and ends up getting whacked for his troubles.

Rubbish. it shows a modicum of intelligence.

Perhaps I will, perhaps I won't.

On the basis it appears to annoy you to distraction, I reckon I'll carry on.

Cracking use of the English language there by the way. I can only imagine you a delight to have an insightful and thought provoking conversation with.



HTH

Last season, against Hull KR as it happens, a Fev player (Knowles I think) was over the line with the ball and could have scored, instead he set off to put the ball behind the sticks, and a Hull KR player came and knocked it out of his hand. And serve the Fev player right. Had he scored we'd have beaten Hull KR instead of drawing. That's taking a risk to improve the angle, what Shaul did was tantamount to cheating. But then his smirk when he got sinbinned for obstructing Briscoe says wall we need to know about him doesn't it?

Cheating? Are you real. The guy doesn't ground the ball so is entitled to carry on and ground it closer to the posts, nothing illegal and certainly not cheating. Give up now before you embarrass yourself even more.

Disciplinary decide 'no charge' for Taulapapa incident.

I'd be more concerned that the defender doesn't make Shaul ground it. Rather than having a pop at Shaul, he should look closer to home for the problem.

Cheating? Don't make me laugh

Quote ="Mr Dog"Disciplinary decide 'no charge' for Taulapapa incident.'" The summary is wrong on the RFL website (surprise, surprise!) When you click on the details of where it says 'no charge' this is what you see:- www.rugby-league.com/article/524 ... ghts-cases It looks like it is a two match penalty.

Quote ="Mr Dog"Disciplinary decide 'no charge' for Taulapapa incident.'" The summary is wrong on the RFL website (surprise, surprise!) When you click on the details of where it says 'no charge' this is what you see:- www.rugby-league.com/article/524 ... ghts-cases It looks like it is a two match penalty.

Is pretending to pass the ball (aka throwing a dummy) cheating as well??

Are you the RL equivalent of a snowflake?

It's up to the defending team to prevent him scoring, either out wide or, under the sticks.
If he wasnt's to risk taking the ball closer to the sticks then, that's up to him but, he may get tackled etc

Where do you stand on dummy runners ?

He probably spits them out.

So every time a player crosses and appears to put the ball down they are fair game for floppers, or any other form of trying to hurt a player who's just scored? Shaul had his back to the tackler and appeared to ground the ball. As long as its understood that a player who appears to have just scored is open to be tackled and tackled hard fair enough. But we all know that won't be the case.

Until a player actually scores of course they may be tackled.
As for any "afters", that would be up to the ref to deal with and the longer the player takes to put the ball down, ie feigning a score and then moving closer to the sticks, the more likely he is to be tackled.

Any foul play during the act of scoring or just after, could result in a penalty try so, it's not really in anyone's interests to get involved in too many afters.
However, you would want the defending side to make every effort to prevent a score.

I can't believe this is even a discussion
I'm amazed your actually having to explain it

Unfortunately there are some on here who cannot understand something as simple as this. Its up to the more intelligent to educate such folk.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous statements I have read on here in the nearly 16 years I've been a member of RLFans...and trust me, there's been a lot in that time!!!

If a player gaining a kicking angle advantage upsets you so greatly, I suggest you try watching a different sport.

Cheating??? *Shakes Head*

Absolutely. Majorhound has Minorbrain.

I dont think him/her understanding is the problem. He/she's just purposely been an idiot for the sake of it.

Can i just make it clear, as I innocently believed it was incredibly clear before, that the defender has the responsibility of stopping the try scorer!

The Fev defender switched off. That doesn't mean he needs to bang every player going in to ground the ball. It means he shouldn't just stop to let him walk past: cover the space between the post and the player man! Just stand there at least! Don't walk past lazily and wonder why people have scored under the posts!

Unless it is actually cheating, and I've not seen this rule written anywhere...

Spot on that Wellsy.

Why are you obsessed about Shaul`s smirk?

Quote ="Wellsy13"Can i just make it clear, as I innocently believed it was incredibly clear before, that the defender has the responsibility of stopping the try scorer! The Fev defender switched off. That doesn't mean he needs to bang every player going in to ground the ball. It means he shouldn't just stop to let him walk past: cover the space between the post and the player man! Just stand there at least! Don't walk past lazily and wonder why people have scored under the posts! Unless it is actually cheating, and I've not seen this rule written anywhere...'" Should never give up on the play until you see the ball dotted down, anything can and has happened, there was that classic one with Will Carling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03gpzFZadcQ If you study what your opposition do and don't give up you can not only save a try but smash the living daylights out of them with a glorious but legal blindside tackle. It certainly makes the opponent think twice about doing the same again.

Quote ="Wellsy13"Can i just make it clear, as I innocently believed it was incredibly clear before, that the defender has the responsibility of stopping the try scorer! The Fev defender switched off. That doesn't mean he needs to bang every player going in to ground the ball. It means he shouldn't just stop to let him walk past: cover the space between the post and the player man! Just stand there at least! Don't walk past lazily and wonder why people have scored under the posts! Unless it is actually cheating, and I've not seen this rule written anywhere...'" Should never give up on the play until you see the ball dotted down, anything can and has happened, there was that classic one with Will Carling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03gpzFZadcQ If you study what your opposition do and don't give up you can not only save a try but smash the living daylights out of them with a glorious but legal blindside tackle. It certainly makes the opponent think twice about doing the same again.

What Shaul actually did was run the risk of not scoring by trying to improve the angle for the kicker. Featherstone's defender switched off, that was his fault.

I was at the Watersheddings about 25 years ago watching Hull play Oldham. There wasn't much between the two sides when Andy Dannatt crossed the line about 20m to the left of the posts. He tried to improve the angle and make it easier for the kicker by running towards the posts. Martin Crompton was in his way so Dannatt tried to knock him out of the way instead of putting the ball down when he had chance. Crompton jumped at him and clamped himself to Dannatt and when they fell on the floor, Crompton single handedly prevented Dannatt from scoring. I was absolutely furious with Dannatt as he'd almost certainly cost us the game.

However, he wasn't cheating, he was just being a .