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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Two problems with your comment:
1. "Tony Ray's" name is spelled "Rea," not "Rae."
2. "Tony" and "Eddie" are the diminutives of "Anthony" and "Edward." Since you are not their friends, colleagues or acquaintances, you are not entitled to disrespect these distinguished gentlemen by using their diminutives.'"
What’s are you going on about? Tony Rea’s first name is Tony, not Anthony, it’s not an abbreviation of anything, it’s his given name. Eddie Hemming’s first name is Eddie, not Edwin or Edward or Edmond, it’s not an abbreviation of anything, it’s his given name.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"What’s are you going on about? Tony Rea’s first name is Tony, not Anthony, it’s not an abbreviation of anything, it’s his given name. Eddie Hemming’s first name is Eddie, not Edwin or Edward or Edmond, it’s not an abbreviation of anything, it’s his given name.'"
Did they abbreviate your name to Psycho at school?
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"What’s are you going on about? Tony Rea’s first name is Tony, not Anthony, it’s not an abbreviation of anything, it’s his given name. Eddie Hemming’s first name is Eddie, not Edwin or Edward or Edmond, it’s not an abbreviation of anything, it’s his given name.'"
How could you know that? Are you a friend or acquaintance of the two gentlemen?
It is most unusual for a man to be named Eddie at birth. Edward is far more likely.
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Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"How could you know that? Are you a friend or acquaintance of the two gentlemen?
It is most unusual for a man to be named Eddie at birth. Edward is far more likely.'"
How do you know it isn't?
Although, given that FreeBMD lists Edward S Hemmings as being born in Liverpool South in Jan-Mar 1950, one would suggest that it is him (68 years old now)
Here's a picture of him in his younger days at Radio Merseyside: news.bbc.co.uk/local/liverpool/h ... 242576.stm
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Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"How could you know that? Are you a friend or acquaintance of the two gentlemen?
It is most unusual for a man to be named Eddie at birth. Edward is far more likely.'"
How do you know it isn't?
Although, given that FreeBMD lists Edward S Hemmings as being born in Liverpool South in Jan-Mar 1950, one would suggest that it is him (68 years old now)
Here's a picture of him in his younger days at Radio Merseyside: news.bbc.co.uk/local/liverpool/h ... 242576.stm
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| I didn't recognise Eddie behind that saxophone.
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Quote ="Fully"How do you know it isn't?
Although, given that FreeBMD lists Edward S Hemmings as being born in Liverpool South in Jan-Mar 1950, one would suggest that it is him (68 years old now)
Here's a picture of him in his younger days at Radio Merseyside: news.bbc.co.uk/local/liverpool/h ... 242576.stm'"
i wouldnt have thought he was 68. i know hes not young but never 68.
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Quote ="Fully"How do you know it isn't?
Although, given that FreeBMD lists Edward S Hemmings as being born in Liverpool South in Jan-Mar 1950, one would suggest that it is him (68 years old now)
Here's a picture of him in his younger days at Radio Merseyside: news.bbc.co.uk/local/liverpool/h ... 242576.stm'"
i wouldnt have thought he was 68. i know hes not young but never 68.
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| Started SL with SKY in his mid 40s, which he looked I thought it was obvious he was knocking on 70, he's been around an age.
Put him, cummings, BM & TOC to the knackers yard.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I didn't recognise Eddie behind that saxophone.'"
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Started SL with SKY in his mid 40s, which he looked I thought it was obvious he was knocking on 70, he's been around an age.
Put him, cummings, BM & TOC to the knackers yard.'"
I agree in principle with your selections, although BM comes up with some good stuff, so I would keep him. Your major error was not including Clarke in your list.
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| Paul Cooke would make a good pundit . I’ve read his autobiography and he as an excellent rugby brain . He talks about “the book” that all clubs have to use calls that have been practiced in training .
I would also use guest summarisers each week, ex players , the likes of Rob “The pocket rocket “Burrows , Luke Robinson .
Sky has let the current format to stagnate , its amateurish , watch the NRL commentary and then you realise how poor ours is . I watched Andrew Voss commentate on the Hull and Wigan matches in Australia this year and he had really done his homework on the English players , speaking about the amateur clubs they had played for etc , he was interesting to listen to .
And that No Try /Try dial for the video ref just about sums things up .....
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| Quote ="The Reason"Paul Cooke would make a good pundit . I’ve read his autobiography and he as an excellent rugby brain . He talks about “the book” that all clubs have to use calls that have been practiced in training . '"
Ray French was an excellent journalist. It means diddly.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Ray French was an excellent journalist. It means diddly.'"
I've heard Cooke co-commentate on Talksport 2 and he was excellent.
They certainly need to bring some fresh voices in on Sky the current mob is becoming unbearable. O'Connor is stealing a living he has to go down as one of the worst pundits to be regularly employed in any sport at any point in history.
You get the sense that they socialise together as a group and have an inflated sense of their worth and importance, like the viewers care about them as much as they do about the game.
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| It doesn't wind me up as much as some on here but must agree on O'Connor; dreadful. I tend to switch off when he is talking but his best from last week was some garbage like "Great opening set, they made 100 metres", then realised they had kicked it from halfway & added "if you count the kick".
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| Quote ="The Reason"I watched Andrew Voss commentate on the Hull and Wigan matches in Australia this year and he had really done his homework on the English players , speaking about the amateur clubs they had played for etc , he was interesting to listen to ..'"
That's because Voss is a proper sports journalist...he puts in the effort....learns some stuff...which is what all commentators should do before any sporting event. Eddie just turns up....unfortunately.
I usually end up turning the sound off when watching Warrington play....the bias against is unbearable.
I totally agree with the original post...time for a big shake up and get some proper talent in...like Voss.
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| I'd be happy for someone like Voss to do remote commentary from Australia with him just watching it on a screen, like Sky do with the Catalan home games, only better
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| With a hefty amount of luck and some forward thinking within the RFL, SKY won't be broadcasting ESL after the next contract runs out. But sadly it'll be same old crud and continue to not only drag the game backwards but putting up with Eddie and co not to mention the overall contempt SKY shows the sport.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Ray French was an excellent journalist. It means diddly.'"
??? I don’t understand your point . Paul Cooke isn’t a journalist . His autobiography was written by Adrian Durham . And Ray French was an excellent commentator.
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"That's because Voss is a proper sports journalist...he puts in the effort....learns some stuff...which is what all commentators should do before any sporting event. Eddie just turns up....unfortunately.
I usually end up turning the sound off when watching Warrington play....the bias against is unbearable.
I totally agree with the original post...time for a big shake up and get some proper talent in...like Voss.'"
Agree with all of that .
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| Quote ="wire-flyer"I'd be happy for someone like Voss to do remote commentary from Australia with him just watching it on a screen, like Sky do with the Catalan home games, only better'"
I find the Catalans home games awful to watch and the commentary is dire .
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| Quote ="The Reason"I find the Catalans home games awful to watch and the commentary is dire .'"
Are you questioning the match calling of William Arthur, or just the commentary of Barrie McDermott, Terence O'Connor and Phillip Clarke?
William Arthur is fine. It is just the other aforenamed who drag the broadcast down.
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| Quote ="The Reason"??? I don’t understand your point . Paul Cooke isn’t a journalist . His autobiography was written by Adrian Durham . And Ray French was an excellent commentator.'"
How can a =#00BF00autobiography be written by someone else? Judas was wriitten by both Paul Cooke and Adrian Durham.
If it was written soley by Adrian Durham,it would be a =#00BF00biography.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Yet posting under the name of a deceased player isn't disrespectful no?'"
I post under a name of a deceased player. He baby sat me as a kid and was an immediate favourite when I was first taken aged 7 to see him play for Hull FC.
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."I post under a name of a deceased player. He baby sat me as a kid and was an immediate favourite when I was first taken aged 7 to see him play for Hull FC.'"
I think there's a difference between you and the poster I was referring to. Imagine if someone started an account called Steve Prescott with the sole intention of being a WUM.
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| Quote ="The Reason"??? I don’t understand your point . Paul Cooke isn’t a journalist . His autobiography was written by Adrian Durham . And Ray French was an excellent commentator.'"
That's because you aren't very bright. I presume Paul Cooke wrote his own autobiography......... Just because someone can put words in print it doesn't mean he or she can commentate. And Ray was a terrible commentator.
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| Quote ="The Reason"??? I don’t understand your point . Paul Cooke isn’t a journalist . His autobiography was written by Adrian Durham . And Ray French was an excellent commentator.'"
Just to educate you, an autobiography is written by the subject of the book. One written by someone else is simply a biography. Ray French (great player that he was) is not, and never will be,a good commentator.
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