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| The sexual tension between Tanya & Brian Noble is unreal.
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| Quote ="bren2k"The prosecution rests.'"
How did you get to that conclusion from what appears to be a very sincere grievance about the nature of the thread conversation?
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| Quote ="McClennan"How did you get to that conclusion from what appears to be a very sincere grievance about the nature of the thread conversation?'"
It struck me as precisely the kind of blustering, faux-outrage that typifies exactly what I was trying to describe - the habit that some people have developed of being offended on other peoples behalf.
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| Quote ="bren2k"It struck me as precisely the kind of blustering, faux-outrage that typifies exactly what I was trying to describe - the habit that some people have developed of being offended on other peoples behalf.'"
So we shouldn't argue against people who like to put others down on commodify people on accounts of their gender.
Do you adopt the same attitude to racism?
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"Do you adopt the same attitude to racism?'"
Do me a favour love.
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| If Tanya's reading this I bet she's gutted that some of the keyboard Brad Pitts on here, might not find her to their impecable tastes in women.
Still I'm sure in time she'll get over it.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Do me favour love.'"
I'd rather not thanks.
If you can't see a similarity between overt sexism and overt racism in terms of ideology and principle then I'm sure as hell not going to do you the favour of having to explain it to you (sweety).
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| Why has this not been locked?
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"If you can't see a similarity between overt sexism and overt racism in terms of ideology and principle then I'm sure as hell not going to do you the favour of having to explain it to you (sweety).'"
Precisely my point - no decent person would condone or apologise for the things you've described, neither of which have happened in this thread; hence my suggestion that the habit of simpering, guardian-reading, local authority employees who become outrageously offended on other peoples behalf, regardless of whether that person is offended or not, is not especially helpful.
And your leap to racism? Very poor form.
Anyway - Eddie Hemmings and his wig/Stevo and his catchphrase tourettes/Clarkey and his one (cherry & white) eye - are they still fair game, or will the humour police be protecting their interests next season too?
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| Quote ="TV BOY"Why has this not been locked?'"
Maybe because it gives half the posters the opportunity to observe what a good appointment this is, and that she is a highly capable presenter; and the other half, another opportunity to make fools of themselves?
I'm sure Tanya is quite used to shrugging off comments about her voice, and the inevitable innuendos that follow; in the same way she probably does not get very excited either about folk observing they find her attractive, and the inevitable innuendos that in some cases seem to follow THAT? My guess is she would be more concerned if folk were saying she was not capable at her job, and was picked for some other reason. So, if she was minded to read this thread, I suspect she'd be pleased that her appointment on professional grounds has been widely applauded?
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| Much prefer her to Angela 'danger' Powers, on a more serious note.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Maybe because it gives half the posters the opportunity to observe what a good appointment this is, and that she is a highly capable presenter; and the other half, another opportunity to make fools of themselves?
I'm sure Tanya is quite used to shrugging off comments about her voice, and the inevitable innuendos that follow; in the same way she probably does not get very excited either about folk observing they find her attractive, and the inevitable innuendos that in some cases seem to follow THAT? My guess is she would be more concerned if folk were saying she was not capable at her job, and was picked for some other reason. So, if she was minded to read this thread, I suspect she'd be pleased that her appointment on professional grounds has been widely applauded?'"
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| Quote ="bren2k"Precisely my point - no decent person would condone or apologise for the things you've described, neither of which have happened in this thread; hence my suggestion that the habit of simpering, guardian-reading, local authority employees who become outrageously offended on other peoples behalf, regardless of whether that person is offended or not, is not especially helpful.
And your leap to racism? Very poor form.
Anyway - Eddie Hemmings and his wig/Stevo and his catchphrase tourettes/Clarkey and his one (cherry & white) eye - are they still fair game, or will the humour police be protecting their interests next season too?'"
Course there's no overt sexism on this thread.
Try looking again at the third post on this thread. Now, how could anyone possible construe 'MILF' to be an overtly sexist response to an OP about a broadcasting position?
And I'm sorry you see the link between racism and sexism as a 'leap'. At least two other posts on this thread have already made this connection...as have about 3 million google results.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Maybe because it gives half the posters the opportunity to observe what a good appointment this is, and that she is a highly capable presenter; and the other half, another opportunity to make fools of themselves?
I'm sure Tanya is quite used to shrugging off comments about her voice, and the inevitable innuendos that follow; in the same way she probably does not get very excited either about folk observing they find her attractive, and the inevitable innuendos that in some cases seem to follow THAT? My guess is she would be more concerned if folk were saying she was not capable at her job, and was picked for some other reason. So, if she was minded to read this thread, I suspect she'd be pleased that her appointment on professional grounds has been widely applauded?'"
Well put AdeyBull.
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| It could be argued that the more 'sexist attitude' is the damning / abuse of any comments about her looks / ability / appearance when this is a RL forum absolutely full of that stuff on nearly every thread regarding players / staff and officials
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| Quote ="J20"It could be argued that the more 'sexist attitude' is the damning / abuse of any comments about her looks / ability / appearance when this is a RL forum absolutely full of that stuff on nearly every thread regarding players / staff and officials
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So criticism of sexism is more sexist than sexism. Interesting concept that.
I think I get the point you're trying to make though. 'Cheap-shot' humour abounds on most message boards. Some of it can be quite amusing but most of it is... well...cheap.
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| there seems to be a definite sense of humour implosion on this thread. we (most of us anyway) are fully functioning adults and dont need The Thought/Humour or indeed blanket, knee jerk offence police to tell us what is and is not offensive in general terms.
granted, repeated quips about her voice have all been done to death long before this thread came along, and if thats all certain people have to say then they should be frowned upon. However, the response generally has been positive, indeed extremely positive with regards her appointment. Yes, i have branded her a 'MILF' but also commented on her professionalism. I happen to think she is attractive in her own way, some may disagree with the use of 'Milf' but i fail to see how in any way it is derogatory in any real sense. And no amount of philosophising on the nature of offence, or trying to make some academic, conceptual leap to racism will change that.
Storm in a tea cup.
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| I said "I would" because guess what, i would.
I don't give a stuff what anyone thinks of that or if they link me to the third reich for saying it.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I said "I would" because guess what, i would.
I don't give a stuff what anyone thinks of that or if they link me to the third reich for saying it.'"
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| I think the part if the thread people take offense to is implying she might be a man.
Saying she is good or bad at her job is just opinion.
Saying she is a Milf is not bad particularly, but I doubt anyone would like someone to suggest you were actually more like the opposite sex than you say you are.
I don't know what is difficult to understand about that.
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| our tanya is a goddess and i for one will never miss an episode of the superleague show again
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| Quote ="joanne callotte"Just for the record, i think shes an excellent broadcaster, and covers our game with great professionalism.'"
Really? Then how do you think she would feel if you had made your jibe in her hearing?
Quote ="joanne callotte"JMy comment had a "wink" attached, you're obviously not that observant,
and it was only a bit of light hearted humour.
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Crass remarks aren't improved by a smiley. "Light hearted"? So, you wouldn't be embarrassed at all to make the same "joke" if she could hear you?
All I am saying is that if you think that's "light hearted humour" then your attitudes need some deconstruction for the 21st century. It isn't funny. Whether you think about it and take the hint, or not, is up to you.
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| Anyway, FWIW, IMO:
Capable?
Good at job?
Attractive?
Personality?
Figure?
Likes RL?
Available?
Oh well, ticks all the boxes except the one that matters...
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| The type of woman a rugby mad man would love to have, my wife isn't really interested in rugby
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