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| Quote ="JINJER"You mention most of these flights have stopped? A quick GOOGLE and there are still flights coming in to Heathrow from New York, Madrid and Rome, without (as I understand) it any checks, straight out onto public transport or hire cars, scandalous.'"
Repatriation flights probably as there is no foreign travel
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Repatriation flights probably as there is no foreign travel'"
Every day for the last two weeks at least? And this is just Heathrow, there’s plenty of other airports too, even if it is repatriation there should be checks and isolation.
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| Quote ="Wildmoggy"So what about the 'natural' curve of this illness, if there's an inevitability about all of this, it comes down to how many lives have been saved at what cost of what being in lockdown will mean for society in years to come, what about divorce rates, suicides, domestic abuse etc as a result of basically having your human rights taken away, and all the mental health issues as a result, that's not even touching on the economical implications?'" now this is where that program horizon will give you the evidence that proves that this is more prolific at spreading and the acceleration of infected, I agree at some point we will have to face this head on hence the isolation to slow it down and try and control the death rate,
Frustrating as it is for you it's a matter of life and death for some, my next door neighbour has gone through chemotherapy across the road we have two across the road that have had heart problems, my immune system is attacking it's self and take drugs which controls it and in between us is neighbour's who isn't keeping to guide lines.
Shows you how selfish people can be
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| Quote ="JINJER"Every day for the last two weeks at least? And this is just Heathrow, there’s plenty of other airports too, even if it is repatriation there should be checks and isolation.'"
My mate returned from Oz last week on a repatriation flight that was packed he has to self isolate for 2 weeks as all passengers are told whether arriving or at their destination for outward flights
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Repatriation flights probably as there is no foreign travel'"
It is not just repat flights. Our borders have never been closed.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"It is not just repat flights. Our borders have never been closed.'"
Yes I know that just look at the FCO site for guidance having worked overseas for many years now I know flights are still available its just tricky getting where you want to go.
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| Completed my Ryanair refund online and got a voucher which extends for 18 months for the accommodation in Perpignan so fingers crossed I hope I’ll be able to use it for next season, only the Stanstead parking is a no no, who’d have thought that a pandemic was in the list of reasons that’s out of their control for refunding, lousy money pinching sods.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Completed my Ryanair refund online and got a voucher which extends for 18 months for the accommodation in Perpignan so fingers crossed I hope I’ll be able to use it for next season, only the Stanstead parking is a no no, who’d have thought that a pandemic was in the list of reasons that’s out of their control for refunding, lousy money pinching sods.'"
If you've paid by credit card you can claim back from credit card company.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Completed my Ryanair refund online and got a voucher which extends for 18 months for the accommodation in Perpignan so fingers crossed I hope I’ll be able to use it for next season, only the Stanstead parking is a no no, who’d have thought that a pandemic was in the list of reasons that’s out of their control for refunding, lousy money pinching sods.'"
Typical robbing airport there BLM.....
Paid by credit card as per above post?
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Typical robbing airport there BLM.....
Paid by credit card as per above post?'"
Yes, I’ll get in touch and hopefully
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Yes, I’ll get in touch and hopefully
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I’ve found that Twitter is a great route as a last resort for getting results, a short Tweet giving details of your complaint then @stansteadairport (or whatever there Twitter handle). Businesses don’t appear to like complaints being aired online.....That’s assuming you do Twitter.
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| Quote ="JINJER"I’ve found that Twitter is a great route as a last resort for getting results, a short Tweet giving details of your complaint then @stansteadairport (or whatever there Twitter handle). Businesses don’t appear to like complaints being aired online.....That’s assuming you do Twitter.
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No I don’t Jinjer, I’m a bit of a dinosaur I’m afraid. The wife is I think I’ll give it a go cheers.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"No I don’t Jinjer, I’m a bit of a dinosaur I’m afraid. The wife is I think
I’ll give it a go cheers.'"
Worth a try mate, make it short but cutting, point out that you’d be breaking the law travelling to Stanstead as it’s not essential (that sort of thing)
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| We have a full refund on flights and hotel along with transfers. Flights were with Ryanair and vueling no way we're we taking a voucher as there is no recompense if the company etc go bust. You are entitled to refunds and do not have to accept a credit/voucher this is your right the airlines are playing the field offering credit notes etc.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"If you've paid by credit card you can claim back from credit card company.'"
Not so. You can only claim your money back through the CC Company as the last resort ie the supplier has gone bust or is criminally negligent. Also, the CC card company will not refund you straight away, what they are obliged to do is pursue the claim on your behalf and recover the money from the supplier on your behalf, only if that fails will they refund you directly, takes a while trust me.
Ryan air has fully refunded with a voucher. BLM could have had cash if he'd have asked but the Airline will always offer in-kind first. Ditto, any other costs. I'd take the money because god knows where the airlines will be in twelve-month but that's just my opinion.
What you definitely can't have is the vouchers and your money back, one or the other.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Not so. You can only claim your money back through the CC Company as the last resort ie the supplier has gone bust or is criminally negligent. Also, the CC card company will not refund you straight away, what they are obliged to do is pursue the claim on your behalf and recover the money from the supplier on your behalf, only if that fails will they refund you directly, takes a while trust me.
Ryan air has fully refunded with a voucher. BLM could have had cash if he'd have asked but the Airline will always offer in-kind first. Ditto, any other costs. I'd take the money because god knows where the airlines will be in twelve-month but that's just my opinion.
What you definitely can't have is the vouchers and your money back, one or the other.'"
I’ve claimed my money back from Ryanair just got a voucher for the digs in Perpignan.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Not so. You can only claim your money back through the CC Company as the last resort ie the supplier has gone bust or is criminally negligent. Also, the CC card company will not refund you straight away, what they are obliged to do is pursue the claim on your behalf and recover the money from the supplier on your behalf, only if that fails will they refund you directly, takes a while trust me.'"
I don't think that's right. They are just as liable as the car parking company, albeit they may try to rely on the same exclusion.
Where you do have power is that companies don't want to fall out with the credit card companies as the CC company can refuse to have any further dealings with them, meaning that the company would lose a valuable source of payment.
[urlhttps://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/section-75-of-the-consumer-credit-act[/url
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Not so. You can only claim your money back through the CC Company as the last resort ie the supplier has gone bust or is criminally negligent. Also, the CC card company will not refund you straight away, what they are obliged to do is pursue the claim on your behalf and recover the money from the supplier on your behalf, only if that fails will they refund you directly, takes a while trust me.
Ryan air has fully refunded with a voucher. BLM could have had cash if he'd have asked but the Airline will always offer in-kind first. Ditto, any other costs. I'd take the money because god knows where the airlines will be in twelve-month but that's just my opinion.
What you definitely can't have is the vouchers and your money back, one or the other.'"
It wasn't Ryanair I was referring to it was his car parking at Stansted Airport!
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| Magic Weekend postponed, but not cancelled. Hoping to fit it in later if possible.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I don't think that's right. They are just as liable as the car parking company, albeit they may try to rely on the same exclusion.
Where you do have power is that companies don't want to fall out with the credit card companies as the CC company can refuse to have any further dealings with them, meaning that the company would lose a valuable source of payment.
[urlhttps://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/section-75-of-the-consumer-credit-act[/url'"
You are right but I never said they were not liable, they are ultimately liable for anything purchased via a CC as per the Credit Act. What I said was that a full refund is not always the immediate result of a claim. They will first investigate, then give the company in question the right to appeal, as not all claims are justified. Then if you have a case it goes to legal who will sue on your behalf, in the meantime, they will generally credit your account, they don't actually wait for the legal issues to be resolved. When this happened to me took nearly 2 months because the company objected then said they would credit me then they didn't etc etc. TBF the CC company was very good, I got it all back and a £25 M&S voucher as an apology.
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"Magic Weekend postponed, but not cancelled. Hoping to fit it in later if possible.'"
Optimistic I think Germany has cancelled Oktober Fest if that's anything to go by I cannot see gatherings in the UK for sport etc for some time yet. Maybe held behind closed doors though at some point.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Optimistic I think Germany has cancelled Oktober Fest if that's anything to go by I cannot see gatherings in the UK for sport etc for some time yet. Maybe held behind closed doors though at some point.'"
Still waiting for the killers concert to be cancelled which for us is on the 13th June in Middlesbrough as yet no news but doubt it will go ahead, was looking forward to that as I'll be 60 on that day
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| Magic Weekend May be held later but it will not be in Newcastle
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It all depends on the case.
I claimed for tickets I bought for one of the Christmas adventure places that went bust. Got my full money back straight away.
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