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| It’s not just 4 games, it’s season after season watching dire rugby with the occasional really good performance, to inconsistent, to many excuses, I feel a change is needed, if we are relying on a fully fit 17 week in week out to get some consistency, we will be waiting a long time. I like Radford, and suspect he’ll have time with this squad, we all hope he can turn things around, I personally don’t think he can
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Well I don't think it's the fans that are to blame. Although Radford has tried that one aswell.'"
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"It’s not just 4 games, it’s season after season watching dire rugby with the occasional really good performance, to inconsistent, to many excuses, I feel a change is needed, if we are relying on a fully fit 17 week in week out to get some consistency, we will be waiting a long time. I like Radford, and suspect he’ll have time with this squad, we all hope he can turn things around, I personally don’t think he can'"
If it's as bad as you're saying, year after year of dire rugby, then I'd have given up a long time ago.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"They are not impressed.
Ma'u is actually fit but refusing to play and Sao is in negotiations to have his contract terminated by mutual agreement.'"
IS THIS ACTUALLY TRUE ?
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| Here’s the rub
Mahe Fonua said that when he first met Radford this year he said he was the same as before and that - Here is the kicker - and that Mahe had expected him to be different by now
What that means is
Mahe has been exposed to high levels of professional coaching in Sydney and has come back to the Pub rugby coaching of before
LR and AL are not anywhere near the level of high professional standards as in Aus
They’re nice guys. Name a Stand after Lee BUT
please hire as top level Aussie as we can and an Aussie asst
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| Quote ="ccs"If it's as bad as you're saying, year after year of dire rugby, then I'd have given up a long time ago.'"
Think we've scored some beauties so far this season.
Los and Ratu's at Headingley. Griff's break and inside ball to Sneyd in the tight Derby. Fonua's flick out of the back of his hand to Los, and Shaul's try through plenty of hands in our defeat against the champs. Then Swifts and Griff's on Sunday were visually pleasing even though we were second best.
Been some exciting moments early doors.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Here’s the rub
Mahe Fonua said that when he first met Radford this year he said he was the same as before and that - Here is the kicker - and that Mahe had expected him to be different by now
What that means is
Mahe has been exposed to high levels of professional coaching in Sydney and has come back to the Pub rugby coaching of before
LR and AL are not anywhere near the level of high professional standards as in Aus
They’re nice guys. Name a Stand after Lee BUT
please hire as top level Aussie as we can and an Aussie asst'"
What about your 9 match barometer Tarqs?
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Think we've scored some beauties so far this season.
Los and Ratu's at Headingley. Griff's break and inside ball to Sneyd in the tight Derby. Fonua's flick out of the back of his hand to Los, and Shaul's try through plenty of hands in our defeat against the champs. Then Swifts and Griff's on Sunday were visually pleasing even though we were second best.
Been some exciting moments early doors.'"
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"#5drivesandakick'"
Without a shadow of a doubt.
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| Long time voyeur on here and first time poster.
Great coaches make great teams. I don't outwardly call for Radford's exit; probably on sentiment for consecutive challenge cups, but a great coach progresses his team. He hasn't and i think his conversion for improving players is poor.
A top coach would be lethal with this squad. I can take injuries as mitigation to a point, but all clubs are feeling it on that score.
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| Quote ="Shaul's tash"Long time voyeur on here and first time poster.
Great coaches make great teams. I don't outwardly call for Radford's exit; probably on sentiment for consecutive challenge cups, but a great coach progresses his team. He hasn't and i think his conversion for improving players is poor.
A top coach would be lethal with this squad. I can take injuries as mitigation to a point, but all clubs are feeling it on that score.'"
Welcome to the board kieran
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Welcome to the board kieran'"
Love it - there are some great one liners on here
9 game barometer ! it's not gonna let me down is it ?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Welcome to the board kieran'"
Eh?
Odd welcome, but thanks. My name's Carl.
If you're the allocated random name generator than Kieran doesn't offend.
Thanks Bill.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Here’s the rub
Mahe Fonua said that when he first met Radford this year he said he was the same as before and that - Here is the kicker - and that Mahe had expected him to be different by now
What that means is
Mahe has been exposed to high levels of professional coaching in Sydney and has come back to the Pub rugby coaching of before
LR and AL are not anywhere near the level of high professional standards as in Aus
They’re nice guys. Name a Stand after Lee BUT
please hire as top level Aussie as we can and an Aussie asst'"
I'd have Nathan Brown like a shot...
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| Quote ="Shaul's tash"Eh?
Odd welcome, but thanks. My name's Carl.
If you're the allocated random name generator than Kieran doesn't offend.
Thanks Bill.'"
Welcome Carl.
He was making a joke. Saying you were Kieron Purtill.
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| I don't understand the people who are saying it's only 4 games. We have embarrassed ourselves fairly consistently for the last 2 seasons. If I was in charge of the club I would have thought long and hard about his position at the end of 2018, and he certainly wouldn't have survived 2019. This is/was his last chance to get it right. We performed well against Leeds, but since then the same old problems have begun to show again. 2/4 from what looked a tricky start on paper isn't in itself an issue. But I have seen very little in our play to suggest that we will threaten any of the good sides this year, and still Radford blames everything but himself.
He really can't afford another misstep imo.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"I actually think if we lose then AP will
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Only if he receives an e-mail from you.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Only if he receives an e-mail from you.'"
There's a pattern developing here
Emails, 9 match barometer , Cam Smiff and Bellamy LOL
Forgot to mention I have a different schpeel on the Drovers pathetic forum. Winning large bets on them losing
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"There's a pattern developing here
Emails, 9 match barometer , Cam Smiff and Bellamy LOL
Forgot to mention I have a different schpeel on the Drovers pathetic forum. Winning large bets on them losing
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Is it the progression of your insanity?
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| the biggest issue for is that we are standing still, there is no expansion to our game or a plan B, C or D which all the best teams come up with
it may be a case of that it has all gone stale and is too predictable but do we reserve judgement until the best 17 are on the park
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| Quote ="SouthAfricaHullFc"the biggest issue for is that we are standing still, there is no expansion to our game or a plan B, C or D which all the best teams come up with
it may be a case of that it has all gone stale and is too predictable but do we reserve judgement until the best 17 are on the park'" Trust me, all the fans of the "best teams" as you call them, are just as miserable towards their own club as you lot are. Besides St Helens, every team has been inconsistent over the past couple of years. I wouldn't call last years runners up, Salford, a consistent team.
We lost away to a great club, Wigan, we've lost there more than we've won there, and I reckon that goes for every club.
Two trophies to play for, and Warrington currently hold half of those, and some of their fans are doing exactly the same as you, making threads about sacking their coach.
I think it maybe the modern witch hunt culture we live in.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Trust me, all the fans of the "best teams" as you call them, are just as miserable towards their own club as you lot are. Besides St Helens, every team has been inconsistent over the past couple of years. I wouldn't call last years runners up, Salford, a consistent team.
We lost away to a great club, Wigan, we've lost there more than we've won there, and I reckon that goes for every club.
Two trophies to play for, and Warrington currently hold half of those, and some of their fans are doing exactly the same as you, making threads about sacking their coach.
I think it maybe the modern witch hunt culture we live in.'"
Again, you seem to think that everyone was fully on board with Radford before the Wigan game. We weren't, it was just another in an endless line of disappointing performances. Besides it's not the result that is a problem. It's the lack of effort in defence, the aimless, poorly structured attacking rugby we played. Poor use of the bench again. The excuses given by Radford after the game. Nothing ever changes.
If you think it's just a witch hunt then look at what the fans of other clubs are saying. The universal opinion is that Hull would be a dangerous side with a top coach, and that Radford is holding us back.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Again, you seem to think that everyone was fully on board with Radford before the Wigan game. We weren't, it was just another in an endless line of disappointing performances. Besides it's not the result that is a problem. It's the lack of effort in defence, the aimless, poorly structured attacking rugby we played. Poor use of the bench again. The excuses given by Radford after the game. Nothing ever changes.
If you think it's just a witch hunt then look at what the fans of other clubs are saying. The universal opinion is that Hull would be a dangerous side with a top coach, and that Radford is holding us back.'"
Exactly, its the continued malaise and now the excuse of the stale/ageing squad is no longer valid as AP has invested in the squad.
Just because the season is only 4 games in does not mean all the poor performances of the last 2 years, poor application, same errors, lack of any seemingly structured play, the pace/intensity in games which we seem to lack along with any real consistency and being unable to actually put an 80min performance in becomes forgotten about.
The problems are there and I wanted Radford to succeed but even now in just 4 games in the signs of past issues are still there and so far unresolved and listening to him he is no closer to solving it.
Yes we've had players missing and the weather has been poor but we struggled to beat Rovers who are in a worse state that us with key injuries and a thinner squad, St's & Wigan again both had their own injury issues and were playing in the same conditions.
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