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| Quote ="craig hkr"The Griffin 3rd man in attack on back of knee seemed to be the start of the niggle becoming more physical . mcillorum then has spat with Kelly, just after that Watts hits him with a Fozzard elbow. Agree with the poster stating that hull fans discounted expert opinions when ref ruled in their favour yet now quote same experts as credible when they feel hard done by. We will have to see how the disciplinary panel see all this?'"
A bit earlier than that Connor gave Tomkins a swinging arm around the chops from behind, then you had the Griffin tackle, then the Kelly throat grab, then the Watts elbow. But on the FC boards it's all Wigan's fault, we are the houses and it's all fixed
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"A bit earlier than that Connor gave Tomkins a swinging arm around the chops from behind, then you had the Griffin tackle, then the Kelly throat grab, then the Watts elbow. But on the FC boards it's all Wigan's fault, we are the houses and it's all fixed
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1st set of the game oloughlin took out sneyd after he kicked should've be been a penalty and yellow card
Then there was a second one in the second half.
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| Quote ="number 6"1st set of the game oloughlin took out sneyd after he kicked should've be been a penalty and yellow card
Then there was a second one in the second half.'"
Takes him out? Yellow card? How long have you been addicted to spice and are you seeking help?
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| Quote ="Hasbag"I posted last night on the Hull forum about how much rubbish Cummings talks. Sky seriously need to bin him off.
Basically on Thursday night Saints put up a kick. Atkinson jumped to catch it but he knocked on. Immediately after he got tackled in the air. Ref gave scrum to Wakey. Cummings said this was correct as the error occurred first therefore a scrum was the right outcome.
Last night, Wigan knocked on. The ball came out, ended up with McIlorum then Kelly hit him high. The ref awarded penalty to Wigan because the foul play overrules the knock on. Cummings agreed in the commentary box! Literally contradicted exactly what he said and argued about the night before.
As a Hull fan I'm not moaning about last night's ref there, as I think he got it right last night with that call. I just personally can't stand listening to Cummings try and justify the refs decisions all the time when it leads to himself constantly contradicting himself every week!'"
One question from that, is a tackle in the air classed as foul play or a technical offence. If it is foul play you have a valid point.
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| Quote ="Trainman"One question from that, is a tackle in the air classed as foul play or a technical offence. If it is foul play you have a valid point.'"
I would assume foul play as it's putting the player in risk of a serious injury.
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| No charge for Liam Watts. The RFL see sense, though probably down to the social media attention from current/ex players about it being the wrong decision.
Thanks to the referee, we have been reduced to 12 men, in a vitally important game that we lost in the last few minutes, due to an incorrect call. Brilliant.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"No charge for Liam Watts. The RFL see sense, though probably down to the social media attention from current/ex players about it being the wrong decision.
Thanks to the referee, we have been reduced to 12 men, in a vitally important game that we lost in the last few minutes, due to an incorrect call. Brilliant.'"
The RFL haven't said it was an incorrect call though. They have said sending off sufficient which means there was an offence committed whether it was accidental or not.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"The RFL haven't said it was an incorrect call though. They have said sending off sufficient which means there was an offence committed whether it was accidental or not.'"
the rfl contradict themselves in the wording! they just cant accept it was a wrong call and say they got it wrong
nowhere do they say watts was leading with his arm or elbow
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| Quote ="number 6"the rfl contradict themselves in the wording! they just cant accept it was a wrong call and say they got it wrong
nowhere do they say watts was leading with his arm or elbow'"
I remember James Graham going to charge a drop kick down in the NRL and accidentally catching the standing leg. A penalty was given even though he didn't do anything wrong. I suspect the RFL have seen it as accidental and therefore said it was sending off sufficient.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Takes him out? Yellow card? How long have you been addicted to spice and are you seeking help?'"
check the rfl website!
worthy of an on field penalty! yellow card yes, we saw the fev player carlisle get a yellow v catalan on saturday, so where is the consistancy
now ill leave you to get back to your own crack n spice seeing as your players are little angels!
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"I remember James Graham going to charge a drop kick down in the NRL and accidentally catching the standing leg. A penalty was given even though he didn't do anything wrong. I suspect the RFL have seen it as accidental and therefore said it was sending off sufficient.'"
I hate the wording, as a sending off wasn't sufficient. From their wording, it was not even worthy of a Red, so it should read "On-field call incorrect"
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| Quote ="number 6"1st set of the game oloughlin took out sneyd after he kicked should've be been a penalty and yellow card.'"
Seriously It was a penalty at most because it was a bit late. No way on earth is that worth a bin
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looks like your all thick and unable to read
www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/disciplinary
read(if you can) calisle then sickinotes
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looks like your all thick and unable to read
www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/disciplinary
read(if you can) calisle then sickinotes
late hit on a kicker is a yellow unless its captain sicknote
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| Quote ="number 6"looks like your all thick and unable to read
late hit is a yellow unless its captain sicknote'"
Can you direct me to where it says he should have been binned? Or where late contact on the kicker is an automatic sin bin
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Can you direct me to where it says he should have been binned? Or where late contact on the kicker is an automatic sin bin
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the similarity in reading keal carlise and sicknotes report! no wonder the rfl leave themselves open for criticism
as for late hits, didnt the rfl bring out the yellow card to protect the kicker!?
regardless of yellow or not, the officials got it wrong, like most things last friday night!
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Quote ="number 6"looks like your all thick and unable to read
www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/disciplinary
read(if you can) calisle then sickinotes
late hit on a kicker is a yellow unless its captain sicknote'"
Didn't the disciplinary say the initial contact was with an open hand and to the chest?
Are are the disciplinary only correct when you approve of what they say?
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www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/disciplinary
read(if you can) calisle then sickinotes
late hit on a kicker is a yellow unless its captain sicknote'"
Didn't the disciplinary say the initial contact was with an open hand and to the chest?
Are are the disciplinary only correct when you approve of what they say?
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| Quote ="secondstanza"Didn't the disciplinary say the initial contact was with an open hand and to the chest?
Are are the disciplinary only correct when you approve of what they say?'"
it reads very similar to me, late hit i assumed was automatic 10
on friday night the officials got it wrong,(probably a reason the game got like it did in the first half)
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| From the RFL site;
Obstruction after kick (j) A common form of obstruction occurs when a player, after kicking the ball forward, is tackled or impeded by an opponent. However, a tackler cannot be expected to delay making a tackle because the player in possession might decide to kick the ball. The onus is on the kicker to get his kick in before his opponent commits himself to the tackle.
The ball has been kicked before the opponent commits himself to the tackle. He should be penalised if he obstructs the kicker.
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Can't find any mention of an automatic yellow though but if SOL went in after the kick was taken then its a pen.
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| Quote ="number 6"it reads very similar to me, late hit i assumed was automatic 10
on friday night the officials got it wrong,(probably a reason the game got like it did in the first half)'"
A late hit isn't an automatic 10, for cases exactly like this one where it would be incredibly soft to sin bin him. The only rules I can think of like that are that professional fouls are an automatic sin bin. Kicking, headbutting and gouging are automatic dismissals. Pretty much everything else is ref's discretion based on severity, intent etc. Obviously with this one it wasn't very severe, and the intent was to charge down the ball. FWIW I agree with the call on the Clubb no try, and that Watts shouldn't have seen red, but this was never worth a yellow.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"No charge for Liam Watts. The RFL see sense, though probably down to the social media attention from current/ex players about it being the wrong decision.
Thanks to the referee, we have been reduced to 12 men, in a vitally important game that we lost in the last few minutes, due to an incorrect call. Brilliant.'"
You lost because you had 12 men? Or because you couldn't close out the game? Or because Sneyd's tackling is poop? Or because Shaul knocked on when you had the chance to win the game again?
More convenient to blame someone else though I guess.
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| If Bateman had done the same to Houghton I'm sure Hull fans would still say yellow card ?
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"You lost because you had 12 men? Or because you couldn't close out the game? Or because Sneyd's tackling is poop? Or because Shaul knocked on when you had the chance to win the game again?
More convenient to blame someone else though I guess.'"
All of the above, but you cant deny that in a game between two well matched teams, playing for an hour with 12 men is a huge disadvantage, and given the closeness of the game you would have to think Hull would have taken it with a full compliment.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"All of the above, but you cant deny that in a game between two well matched teams, playing for an hour with 12 men is a huge disadvantage, and given the closeness of the game you would have to think Hull would have taken it with a full compliment.'"
I'll do you a deal. Give me the Clubb try and a match winning 6 points and you can have your 2 league points from Friday. Given the choice I'd rather have that bit of luck in a CC final than a super 8's game.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"You lost because you had 12 men? Or because you couldn't close out the game? Or because Sneyd's tackling is poop? Or because Shaul knocked on when you had the chance to win the game again?
More convenient to blame someone else though I guess.'"
Not very comparable is it. One missed tackle, one knock on compared with 60 minutes with 12 men.
More convenient to ignore the completely obvious though I guess.
See you at Old Trafford
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| Quote ="craig hkr"If Bateman had done the same to Houghton I'm sure Hull fans would still say yellow card ?'"
Highly unlikely scenario. Houghton has been the Leagues top tackler for the last 5 years as he knows how to tackle, not impersonate Ram Man from masters of the universe.
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