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| Quote ="Superted"Corey Thompson isn't a bad signing - he always looks game, definitely a trier - I'd guess he'll score a hatful. Although not a regular starter for the Doggies, he always looks capable when he gets his chance and never let's anyone down.
Those who think Manu is a great signing - have you seen him play the past 3 years at Penrith? He's been average at absolute best... This year he's averaging 17 tackles and 8 hit ups for less than 70 meters per game and has only made 2 line breaks all year (15 appearances) - and it was hardly better last year, averaging 18 tackles and 8 hit ups for 72 meters - oh and he only made 1 line break all year (23 appearances). Those ain't the figures of a great signing and are the reason he's no longer a starter at the Panthers...'"
Best post this on the FC board. Give them a reality check
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| To be fair, Hull as a City is usually 15 years behind the rest of the UK, and it's only 5 years since Manu was a good player - they're making progress...
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| Quote ="Superted"To be fair, Hull as a City is usually 15 years behind the rest of the UK, and it's only 5 years since Manu was a good player - they're making progress...'"
Similar to Keith Galloway then?
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Quote ="Superted"To be fair, Hull as a City is usually 15 years behind the rest of the UK, and it's only 5 years since Manu was a good player - they're making progress...'"
Similar to Keith Galloway then?'"
You could say so, however, in his 18 games this year, Galloway has averaged 22 tackles and 13 hit ups for an average of 115 meters..... Far better stats than Manu, and those numbers are still pretty good going for a limited minutes prop - the sort of stats I'd expect Leeds will be hoping to get from him, so horses for courses for Leeds..... I'd guess for the money Hull will be paying Manu, they'd expect more than his current averages - their fans clearly expect some superstar... The Hull fans jus need to realise they've not signed the version of Manu that looked great outside Cronk, Smith and Slater, they've signed the expensive dud who's done nothing at Penrith without the 'big 3' - his stock has declined massively - so imagine how much worse he might look in a Hull team that will provide even less talent support than the Panthers.
Pritchard should be a good signing for Hull if he stays fit and is hungry for it, but I stand by my comment; Manu is a dud!
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"Wigan have only ever said they ARE using it on Tomkins. After the Marquee rule was announced SW and IL were both quoted as saying it meant we could re-sign other squad players who may have had to be let go otherwise.'"
So the first use of the marquee rule is not to actually sign a marquee player but just to be able to spend over the cap. Who'd have thought it?
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| Quote ="Superted"You could say so, however, in his 18 games this year, Galloway has averaged 22 tackles and 13 hit ups for an average of 115 meters..... Far better stats than Manu, and those numbers are still pretty good going for a limited minutes prop - the sort of stats I'd expect Leeds will be hoping to get from him, so horses for courses for Leeds..... I'd guess for the money Hull will be paying Manu, they'd expect more than his current averages - their fans clearly expect some superstar... The Hull fans jus need to realise they've not signed the version of Manu that looked great outside Cronk, Smith and Slater, they've signed the expensive dud who's done nothing at Penrith without the 'big 3' - his stock has declined massively - so imagine how much worse he might look in a Hull team that will provide even less talent support than the Panthers.
Pritchard should be a good signing for Hull if he stays fit and is hungry for it, but I stand by my comment; Manu is a dud!'"
Yeh, we get it mate
It's funny that you've picked out Manu for criticism over all the players listed on the fist page. Perhaps it's a coincidence that it's a player Leeds were after and were turned down?
I don't think many (maybe the odd few) are getting carried away with the Manu signing, Pritchard is the one were most excited about, but we're very happy with our recruitment as a whole.
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| Leeds weren't after Manu, the HDM got that wrong.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Leeds weren't after Manu, the HDM got that wrong.'"
The HDM editor is a Hull FC fan. Most likely made it up that Leeds etc and no doubt countless NRL clubs were after the player his team have signed. Big them up and makes it look like the said player has been signed amidst tough competition.
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| Quote ="Structured"The HDM editor is a Hull FC fan. Most likely made it up that Leeds etc and no doubt countless NRL clubs were after the player his team have signed. Big them up and makes it look like the said player has been signed amidst tough competition.'"
Yes, imagine the memo the HDM editor sends to their reporters, "listen guys, any Hull FC signings, make sure you link them with some top clubs to make them look better". And surely this would be the case with every signing? You're a bonehead Zod
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Yes, imagine the memo the HDM editor sends to their reporters, "listen guys, any Hull FC signings, make sure you link them with some top clubs to make them look better".
And surely this would be the case with every signing? You're a bonehead Zod
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Leeds fan stating Leeds weren't interested, banned forum user standee under a different guise disputing HDM bias.
There's a surprise
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Quote ="Structured"Leeds fan stating Leeds weren't interested, banned forum user standee under a different guise disputing HDM bias.
There's a surprise
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Or Rugbyam bias (who are based in Leeds)?
www.rugbyam.co.uk/pages/airlie-birds/
And Standee (Martin) is currently going by the name of HullFC_1865, fyi. As confirmed by a mod on this thread;
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=587042&start=40
Keep trying Zoddy. Anyway, any news on any HKR signings?
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There's a surprise
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Or Rugbyam bias (who are based in Leeds)?
www.rugbyam.co.uk/pages/airlie-birds/
And Standee (Martin) is currently going by the name of HullFC_1865, fyi. As confirmed by a mod on this thread;
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=587042&start=40
Keep trying Zoddy. Anyway, any news on any HKR signings?
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Quote ="Superted"You could say so, however, in his 18 games this year, Galloway has averaged 22 tackles and 13 hit ups for an average of 115 meters..... Far better stats than Manu, and those numbers are still pretty good going for a limited minutes prop - the sort of stats I'd expect Leeds will be hoping to get from him, so horses for courses for Leeds..... I'd guess for the money Hull will be paying Manu, they'd expect more than his current averages - their fans clearly expect some superstar... The Hull fans jus need to realise they've not signed the version of Manu that looked great outside Cronk, Smith and Slater, they've signed the expensive dud who's done nothing at Penrith without the 'big 3' - his stock has declined massively - so imagine how much worse he might look in a Hull team that will provide even less talent support than the Panthers.
Pritchard should be a good signing for Hull if he stays fit and is hungry for it, but I stand by my comment; Manu is a dud!'"
Yeh, we get it mate
It's funny that you've picked out Manu for criticism over all the players listed on the fist page. Perhaps it's a coincidence that it's a player Leeds were after and were turned down?
I don't think many (maybe the odd few) are getting carried away with the Manu signing, Pritchard is the one were most excited about, but we're very happy with our recruitment as a whole.'"
Have a look through my posts 'mate' and you'll find I just say it as I see it, infact I'm pretty sure I gave this opinion on Manu a while ago on the Leeds board when discussing potential signings - it doesn't matter what club Manu would have signed for, he'd still be a dud!
Care to provide any stats or examples that would show anything other than Manu being a dud since he left the storm?
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| Quote ="Superted"Have a look through my posts 'mate' and you'll find I just say it as I see it, infact I'm pretty sure I gave this opinion on Manu a while ago on the Leeds board when discussing potential signings - it doesn't matter what club Manu would have signed for, he'd still be a dud!
Care to provide any stats or examples that would show anything other than Manu being a dud since he left the storm?'"
I haven't disagreed with you, just commented that of all the players coming to SL, you've picked him out for a kick in.
Regarding signings, I'm happy with Hulls as a whole. I don't claim to know how much any of them are earning, and I'll wait until I see them put on a black and white shirt before getting too excited or labelling any of them 'duds'.
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| Scott Taylor and frank Pritchard would get in the 17 of any team in super league . 3 very good signings even without my black n white specs on
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You forgot to include the season's stats for Manu
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"I haven't disagreed with you, just commented that of all the players coming to SL, you've picked him out for a kick in.
Regarding signings, I'm happy with Hulls as a whole. I don't claim to know how much any of them are earning, and I'll wait until I see them put on a black and white shirt before getting too excited or labelling any of them 'duds'.'"
Only reason I've commented on Manu is because he's a recent signing and fairly high profile - and people (Hull fans mainly) are way way over estimating his value.
It's fair to assume he'll be on a fair wedge (some FC fans think he'll be on the marquee salary), certainly more than I'd think he'd be worth....
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| Quote ="Structured"You forgot to include the season's stats for Manu
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I never mentioned stats or Manu
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Scott Taylor and frank Pritchard would get in the 17 of any team in super league . 3 very good signings even without my black n white specs on'"
Taylor wouldn't get in the first choice 17 of at least 4 or 5 sides. Decent player and good signing but he's not some sort of superstar just because he's now signed for hull fc
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| I've noticed the French development scheme is coming on nicely as well with the information currently posted.
The future looks...........
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"I've noticed the French development scheme is coming on nicely as well with the information currently posted.
The future looks...........'"
7 players in and 9 players out, including French players going to the NRL, Cas and Leigh. It's better than a number of other super league clubs.
2015 - Midseason Gains: Krisnan Inu (Stade Français).
2015 - Midseason Losses: Mathias Pala (Leigh Centurions), Gadwin Springer (Castleford Tigers), Damien Cardace (Released).
2016 Gains: Pat Richards (West Tigers), Richie Myler (Warrington Wolves), Dave Taylor (Gold Coast Titans), Paul Aiton (Leeds Rhinos), Justin Horo (Manly Sea Eagles), Jodie Broughton (Huddersfield Giants).
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| Just for the sake of balance, if Pritchard stays fit and is motivated he'll be one of the most damaging runners in SL. He is still a very good player, and would get into any SL side.
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| Quote ="Omar Little"Taylor wouldn't get in the first choice 17 of at least 4 or 5 sides. Decent player and good signing but he's not some sort of superstar just because he's now signed for hull fc'"
Which 4 ie 5 superleague sides wouldn't taylor get into?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Which 4 ie 5 superleague sides wouldn't taylor get into?'"
Shall we keep it simple and just go for the top 8 other than Hull
(As I said he's a good player but the question is first 17. I don't particularly get Wigan's decision to offload him to Salford this year but fact is they did so its a fact that they chose not to have him in their squad never mind 17)
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| I dont mind people saying Manu is a dud, he hasn't had a great couple of seasons, they may be right. Taylor not getting in 4 or 5 teams however is hilarious. Hes in the top 10 props in the comp without trying.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I dont mind people saying Manu is a dud, he hasn't had a great couple of seasons, they may be right. Taylor not getting in 4 or 5 teams however is hilarious. Hes in the top 10 props in the comp without trying.'"
He's not even in the top 10 for metre made, carries, or tackles for Props in SL this year so claims that he's in the top 10 props in the comp is a little wide of the mark.
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