And i gave you a simple answer. No, not according to James Child.

Im not sure how much simpler it can be for you, James Child does not think that JP verbally abused him. James Child did not think his use of the word bent was a homophobic insult (like everyone else)

You say a simple yes or no will suffice, yet no didnt suffice. You're very strange, like a very boring jester.

You certainly did and the fact you're so up in arms over someone saying the word BENT when to 99.9% of us it means something totally different to what you're insinuating says a lot more about your own character than anyone elses.

Keep going though, it's entertaining to read your faux outrage and there's not much on the tele.

Except you didn't just say no, you came out with a load of guesswork about what Child and Peacock might have thought.

So you're ignoring the evidence of your own eyes when watching the video and hiding behind what you think might have or have not been in the refs report.

Thanks

No point arguing any further!

Based in what I've seen Peacock, Clarke and Walsh are good bets SO FAR.
SOL at Wigan will probably be in the top 3 come the end regardless of how many games he plays.

As a Giants fan if I had to put one of my teams players in I would probably go with Joe Wardle. He's troubled a few teams this year in attack and defence.

So now we have a situation in The Avenger's head where Richard Agar was secretly tried and punished by the RFL for using the word bent to James Child included a refs report that nobody reported on, and JP not being punished for using the word bent to James Child included in a refs report that has been publicly reported as including a homophobic insult by another player, but not Peacock's, who hasnt been secretly tried and punished by the RFL.

That sounds a realistic state of affairs.

I've been pretty consistent throughout.
My point is that this year Jamie Peacock is behind a couple of other players on performance.
Also, in my opinion, he has ruled himself out of being worthy of receiving the award (this year) because of his foulmouthed tirade at a match official which was caught on video and seen live on national television. Added to that the unedifying sight of a 36-year-old ex Great Britain captain raining punches on a man half his size and half his age.

For holding that opinion I have since been plagued by the usual suspects from the Leeds mob who just won't hear anything negative said about one of the Rhinos players.

Clark looks likely for YPOY if he carries on as he is. Hardaker would have been up there if not for his moment of idiocy as he has had a storming start to the year.

S'OL has been great as well but you can't win MoS playing half a season in my opinion. Needs to be on the field more

Now you're just being pathetic!

Watch the video, then be honest for once in your life.

Peacock clearly calls the ref a "f*#k!^g bent C+^t"

That's a foul mouthed attack on the referee, whether he meant the word 'bent' as a homophobic insult only JP knows Even if he didn't, for a so called intelligent man he was stupid to use that word when having a go at an openly Gay match official.

The next point is why has he not been punished for the offence which was broadcast live on National TV and then spread all over Twitter and Facebook alongside Hardakers homophobic outburst.

Whether or not you choose to believe what Bren2K and I were told by Richard Agar is totally down to you but just because you didn't know doesn't mean it never happened, I have no reason to believe why Richard Agar would lie.

I'm not too bothered whether you want to respond or not as you've already shown that you can't be honest.

I dont believe you about Agar. It is clearly unsubstantiated nonsense which goes against all available evidence.

James Child didnt think it was meant in that way, it is very rare for the word to be used in that way. That is an incident and problem though up entirely in your head. Thats the reason he hasnt been punished for it.

I've toyed with you enough now, but it has been funny watching you get further and further in to your own rabbit hole of nonsense. I dont care if Peacock called Child a bent cu4t, it wasnt a homophobic or racist or anything like that, Child is a big boy, who cared that much he made no mention of it since. A pretty meaningless insult will be water off his back, he will be ok. Even if you arent.

Like I said, you can't be honest about it

Oh give it a rest, that's even more desperate than your "bent" tirade. The Leigh player was big enough and old enough to be on the pitch throwing sly shots and head butting players so he's big enough and old enough to take a battering for doing so. From what McDermott said last week there was a lot more going on in the build up to that too.



Far from it, once charged I had no argument with Hardaker's ban and Ablett's 2 weeks off. I really don't see why anyone should be banned for reacting to dirty ***** like that though whether they play for Leeds, Saints or Doncaster, guy deserved all he got.

Walsh, Peacock, Clark top 3. Order has scope to change between now and October.

Oddly anough I was listening to Bill Harrigan last night, and he said he'd automatically send off any player who accused him of cheating - he could handle abuse, particularly after a controversial decision, but that was his line in the sand (and why he sent off Tallis in Origin for just that offence). He also reckoned more refs should sinbin players for OTT abuse than they do, as this would stop it.

Have to say I tend to agree with him - if Peacock called Child a 'bent so and so' I'd have no problem with binning him, not for being homophobic (bent and bender really are something from the 70s as far as homophobic slurs go) but for questioning impartiality.

Please Please Please can the Mods lock this thread or at least virtually slap Smokey and Avenger. Again another thread whereby Smokey doesn't agree so he argues constantly until the other poster gets bored.

Leon Pryce

Fabricated, agenda-driven nonsense.

Hardaker needs a couple more years, keep quiet and let his skill and ability do the talking and I think he'll one day earn that award.

In summary, Peacock's use of a naughty word debars him from winning the MOS. The naughty word in question, "bent" is one that has been thrown at referees since Adam was a lad and means,' excuse me sir your decisions are tending to be generous to our opponents'.

Only the demented Avenger can put a more sinister case, what a prat.

I see you've conveniently ignored F*^+ing and C*^t that sandwiched the word bent.

Won't someone please think of the children.

Miss, Miss, Jamie swored Miss.

Fu**ing LOL

Perhaps we should retrospectively void the MOS awards handed out to a few former winners too. Graham for biting Slater's ear, Chase for breaking that Fev players jaw, Tomkins for giving the V sign, and Long for his betting incident.

Calling someone a Facking bent Cvnt is a public disorder/breach of the peace offence one which can and does get you arrested on the street plus an on the spot fine.
'Bent' is in equal measure referring to someone whom is homosexual and one whom isn't playing by the rules in a balanced way.
To suggest that the word 'bent' is a throwback to the 70s is just laughable, you hear the word used all the time with reference to people whom are gay. Used the way JP did is extremely offence & should have been punished.

The language used is in direct violation of the RFLs code of conduct and is clearly seen being shouted by JP to the referee.
If anyone denies that then they are either blind or just do not want to admit the truth.
That the two faced, shysters that are the RFL has done nought about this just comes across as covering and not wanting to haul a well respected player over the coals, especially since he is the holder of an MBE an ex national capt & TV pundit etc.
It would be a major embaressment for JP personally, his family and the wider rugby community..so the RFL have brushed this under the carpet..not a murmer (which in itself is frankly disgraceful), there can be no other reason not to have him up on similar charges to Hardaker.

That the whino fans on this board are gathering themselves to defend JP is frankly even more laughable and somewhat worrying that these people think his outburst/s are somehow acceptable or just never happened! You should be thinking what will he come out with the next time a decision goes against him, because it is the general mindset of a person that comes out with stuff like that..not just once but it is there under the surface. he clearly is not able to control himself as has being shown numerous times, his over the top reaction to a nudge in the face in the CC match was thre for all to see.
His own statement and that of McDermott (with regard JPs punishment & lack thereof of the Leigh player) speaks volumes about them too, as does the snivelling non apology from Hardaker that his PR team released

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There's no point trying to have a discussion about it here because as The Avenger has said, fans (& not just whinos) don't want to admit there is a problem here...seems the acceptance of homophobic/abusive language directed toward players and or officials is rife within RL fans forum and beyond.
It would seem clear that a fair portion just do not have the mental capacity to understand the ramifications..those I pity..the ones that do are the dangerous ones here, I'd like to hope that these types aren't passing down their twisted view on the world to any youngsters but sadly the way things are going in society that is just not going to happen.

If there was anyone posting mock-outrage on this thread who didn't have an anti-Leeds agenda then it might be interesting.

Peacock's verbal volley should have resulted in a fine or suspension but for anyone to claim that it was in any way similar to Hardaker's offence, for which he should have been sacked, is truly, and knowingly, ridiculous.