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| Quote ="Little Ivor"Yeah, you're right, we should pack in trying to improve the sport and just give up now. I'll fetch the cyanide pills.
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No, we should work hard at improving the sport, just with better people in charge, with a better grip on the reality of what's wrong, what's right, and how to move forward. For that matter, just the ability to THINK would be a start.
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| Quote ="William Eve"This is correct.
World Cup tickets will have to be offered up for sale again at discounted prices (or even given away) or stadia will be embarrassingly half-empty or more throughout the tournament.'"
Correct. I also predict that you'll now be chastised as 'talking the game down'. Reality is not allowed on these forums. It would imply that something could be done to make things better, but the people who will now criticize you think the game is doing just fine and don't want to hear you. Frogs in slow-heating pan of water.
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| Quote ="RLBandit"Correct. I also predict that you'll now be chastised as 'talking the game down'. Reality is not allowed on these forums. It would imply that something could be done to make things better, but the people who will now criticize you think the game is doing just fine and don't want to hear you. Frogs in slow-heating pan of water.'"
As I said before...This is just boring now, people who come on these pages without a single positive thing to say about the game. It's not about people 'like me' not wanting to hear anything negative said about RL because yes we know it's not perfect, but this constant putting down of the sport without a positive balance is tedious.
It's not that there aren't issues, there are, but quite why some continue to follow the game with NOTHING positive to say about it baffles me. This is why the 'moaners' are greeted with apathy, some valid points sometimes but it gets boring.
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| It isn’t reality, if it was reality you would be able to prove it. But you cant prove it because it hasn’t happened and you have no evidence to base your statement on. You don’t know whether the WC will be well attended, poorly attended or something in between. You cant possibly know this because it hasn’t happened and we are 8 months away from it happening. Between now and then every single ticket could be sold. Or none could.
You are, quite obviously, quite clearly, just whining. Again.
PS:For future reference, we get it. You don’t like Nigel Wood, you don’t care what he does or what he achieves you want him out. We understand that. You don’t need to try and twist every topic, to search for anything that could possibly be construed as not quite meeting expectations to reiterate it.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Quote ="Buggo"Ticket sales will be so so.
English fans do not support International Games that well, for a whole different set of reasons neither do Australian Fans.'"
This is correct.
World Cup tickets will have to be offered up for sale again at discounted prices (or even given away) or stadia will be embarrassingly half-empty or more throughout the tournament.'"
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| Are people really that pessimistic that they're talking down the World Cup before it's even happened?!
Some people seem to find it more pleasurable to succeed in failing than failing to succeed. That's just sad.
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| its the duty of every rugby league fan to watch at least one world cup game that doesnt involve a home nation.
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| Quote ="Knuckles"its the duty of every rugby league fan to watch at least one world cup game that doesnt involve a home nation.'"
I'll be watching the game at the lsv which will involve no home nation team. After that i'll probably be watching all the other games on tv because i know how important tv viewing figure are to the rfl & the VT and i just want to do my bit for the good of the game.
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| I seem to remember that some people thought that the Olympics were going to be rubbish last year, even in the last few months leading up to it.
Quote ="Wellsy13"Some people seem to find it more pleasurable to succeed in failing than failing to succeed. That's just sad.'"
It's sad but true unfortunately. But you get people, like RLBandit etc, who like to claim anyone who talks them down must have their head buried in the sand and can't see the light like they do. If you praise one thing about RL they immediately label you as an RFL lover who thinks that EVERYTHING is perfect and great about RL in England.
As i've said before their is nothing wrong with criticism (pessimism even) if it's constructive, something along the lines of...........[i''it's a decent start regarding ticket sales, but they need to make sure they keep it up''.[/i
Not just [i''it's s**t and the whole thing is going to be rubbish''[/i.
Can you spot the difference you glass half empty lads??? That you can't even tell why people don't really like you means your judgment is questionable in the first place.......but if it makes you feel superior/better/smarter (which is what it's really all about with you guys deep down) then keep convincing yourself that the reason people don't like you is because we are [i'so jealous that you're ahead of the crowd and tougher to impress'.[/i
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| Might try and get to Craven Park for a game. I'll be a student again by then though so may struggle on the pennies!
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Might try and get to Craven Park for a game. I'll be a student again by then though so may struggle on the pennies!'" It's £15 for two games...
In fact if you're a student you might get concession, which would mean £7.50 for two games.
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| Quote ="headhunter"It's £15 for two games...
In fact if you're a student you might get concession, which would mean £7.50 for two games.'"
But how can I afford that when I'm buying books to study... Yeah right!
Sure ill scrape something together. Saving for Cardiff, Wembley, KC and Old Trafford so if there's enough by the way-side, I'll hit Craven Park for a couple as well.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"I seem to remember that some people thought that the Olympics were going to be rubbish last year, even in the last few months leading up to it.'"
Comparing the largest sporting even on the planet to RLWC 2013 isn't going to end well......I'd quit now if I were you.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"I seem to remember that some people thought that the Olympics were going to be rubbish last year, even in the last few months leading up to it.
Quote ="Wellsy13"Some people seem to find it more pleasurable to succeed in failing than failing to succeed. That's just sad.'"
It's sad but true unfortunately. But you get people, like RLBandit etc, who like to claim anyone who talks them down must have their head buried in the sand and can't see the light like they do. If you praise one thing about RL they immediately label you as an RFL lover who thinks that EVERYTHING is perfect and great about RL in England.
As i've said before their is nothing wrong with criticism (pessimism even) if it's constructive, something along the lines of...........[i''it's a decent start regarding ticket sales, but they need to make sure they keep it up''.[/i
Not just [i''it's s**t and the whole thing is going to be rubbish''[/i.
Can you spot the difference you glass half empty lads??? That you can't even tell why people don't really like you means your judgment is questionable in the first place.......but if it makes you feel superior/better/smarter (which is what it's really all about with you guys deep down) then keep convincing yourself that the reason people don't like you is because we are [i'so jealous that you're ahead of the crowd and tougher to impress'.[/i
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"I seem to remember that some people thought that the Olympics were going to be rubbish last year, even in the last few months leading up to it.
It's sad but true unfortunately. But you get people, like RLBandit etc, who like to claim anyone who talks them down must have their head buried in the sand and can't see the light like they do. If you praise one thing about RL they immediately label you as an RFL lover who thinks that EVERYTHING is perfect and great about RL in England.
As i've said before their is nothing wrong with criticism (pessimism even) if it's constructive, something along the lines of...........[i''it's a decent start regarding ticket sales, but they need to make sure they keep it up''.[/i
Not just [i''it's s**t and the whole thing is going to be rubbish''[/i.
Can you spot the difference you glass half empty lads??? That you can't even tell why people don't really like you means your judgment is questionable in the first place.......but if it makes you feel superior/better/smarter (which is what it's really all about with you guys deep down) then keep convincing yourself that the reason people don't like you is because we are [i'so jealous that you're ahead of the crowd and tougher to impress'.[/i
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| Just been reading the last few pages, lets just call the whole thing off. Seriously, some people need to look back at the things they have written and realise how pathetic they are. The RLWC is a tremendous opportunity for the greatest game here in Britain. Stop trying to belittle it and get behind the sport which I am sure (despite the facade) you love.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Quote ="ThePrinter"I seem to remember that some people thought that the Olympics were going to be rubbish last year, even in the last few months leading up to it.'"
Comparing the largest sporting even on the planet to RLWC 2013 isn't going to end well......I'd quit now if I were you.
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Can you imagine the reaction from the doom merchants if the RFL drafted in the army to fill the empty seats
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Quote ="ThePrinter"I seem to remember that some people thought that the Olympics were going to be rubbish last year, even in the last few months leading up to it.
It's sad but true unfortunately. But you get people, like RLBandit etc, who like to claim anyone who talks them down must have their head buried in the sand and can't see the light like they do. If you praise one thing about RL they immediately label you as an RFL lover who thinks that EVERYTHING is perfect and great about RL in England.
As i've said before their is nothing wrong with criticism (pessimism even) if it's constructive, something along the lines of...........[i''it's a decent start regarding ticket sales, but they need to make sure they keep it up''.[/i
Not just [i''it's s**t and the whole thing is going to be rubbish''[/i.
Can you spot the difference you glass half empty lads??? That you can't even tell why people don't really like you means your judgment is questionable in the first place.......but if it makes you feel superior/better/smarter (which is what it's really all about with you guys deep down) then keep convincing yourself that the reason people don't like you is because we are [i'so jealous that you're ahead of the crowd and tougher to impress'.[/i
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For what its worth, I'm 100% behind the world cup and hope its a success, which in part, it will be. I also agree that we can reasonably expect a lot of games to be played in front of crowds which look bad on TV, unless, for those games, tickets are practically given away ( which was the not-unreasonable post I responded to). These are not contradictory positions to hold. It may in fact be entirely reasonable to give tickets away, or indeed, as I think was suggested somewhat in jest, fill them with members of the armed forces). That, for example, would be indicative to me of RFL actually doing something really smart, in realising that we're going to get some exposure for once, so for Pete's sake make it look good! The televised empty stadia in preious World Cups looked awful.
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| Quote ="RLBandit"For what its worth, I'm 100% behind the world cup and hope its a success,'" Stop lying, you are desperate for the competition to fail.
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| Quote ="RLBandit"For what its worth, I'm 100% behind the world cup and hope its a success.'"
Quote ="headhunter"Stop lying, you are desperate for the competition to fail.'"
WTF?
Nobody on here is desperate for the RLWC to fail. You need to chillax headhunter mate......not everyone is out to get you.
It is fair to guesstimate from the press release used at the start of this thread that about 80% of the tickets available for the RLWC are still available...it is also fair to say that 40,000 tickets for the final are available and less than 35,000 have been sold for the semis and 35,000 for the double header.....this is a real worry, as regardless of a late surge if England make the final, Wembley Stadium and the Millenium stadium less than half full will not be a good look on TV.......pointing that out doesn't make someone "desperate to see it fail"..
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| Quote ="gutterfax"WTF?
Nobody on here is desperate for the RLWC to fail. You need to chillax headhunter mate......not everyone is out to get you.
It is fair to guesstimate from the press release used at the start of this thread that about 80% of the tickets available for the RLWC are still available...it is also fair to say that 40,000 tickets for the final are available and less than 35,000 have been sold for the semis and 35,000 for the double header.....this is a real worry, as regardless of a late surge if England make the final, Wembley Stadium and the Millenium stadium less than half full will not be a good look on TV.......pointing that out doesn't make someone "desperate to see it fail"..'" Yes, it would be bad if no additional tickets were sold in the next 9 months. Yes, it would be bad if nobody turned up to the matches but it's not a 'real worry' because your posts aren't based on anything other than your fantasies, and with that in mind I'm not sure why you are continuing to post the same thing over and over again.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Quote ="RLBandit"For what its worth, I'm 100% behind the world cup and hope its a success,'" Stop lying, you are desperate for the competition to fail.'"
And that's why the 'pessimists' and 'optimists' ( though I dispute which is which) will never 'get' what the others are trying to say. You can't understand how we can be worried about the sport, scornful of the RFL, but supportive of the actual sport of RL. Likewise, we can't understand what is so difficult to understand about that.
There *are* some short term shocks I would accept if it served the greater good of getting the sport to wake up, find new leadership, and radically change. If that is what you mean when you say I want things to fail, maybe. A 'failed' World Cup isn't one of those things.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Quote ="gutterfax"WTF?
Nobody on here is desperate for the RLWC to fail. You need to chillax headhunter mate......not everyone is out to get you.
It is fair to guesstimate from the press release used at the start of this thread that about 80% of the tickets available for the RLWC are still available...it is also fair to say that 40,000 tickets for the final are available and less than 35,000 have been sold for the semis and 35,000 for the double header.....this is a real worry, as regardless of a late surge if England make the final, Wembley Stadium and the Millenium stadium less than half full will not be a good look on TV.......pointing that out doesn't make someone "desperate to see it fail"..'" Yes, it would be bad if no additional tickets were sold in the next 9 months. Yes, it would be bad if nobody turned up to the matches but it's not a 'real worry' because your posts aren't based on anything other than your fantasies, and with that in mind I'm not sure why you are continuing to post the same thing over and over again.'"
Anyone with the slightest memory of the previous World Cups, and indeed some other internationals has plenty justification to at least have a concern. Only if the problem had never been seen before would it be fair to call it 'fantasy'. On previous evidence in fact, it is more fantastical to expect to avoid some of these very empty-stadia games appearing on TV. Whether you're confident or worried, nobody *knows* what will happen. People have a right to an opinion. That remains true even if you think they're wrong, they're boring, they're repetitive, or if you have no interest in their droning on in a way that annoys you. It's a discussion forum.
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| I remember 3 World Cups, one was amazing in 95, then a garbage one in 2000 and another great one in 2008. Forgive me for being optimistic about this one.
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