Your the one who posted stats for an alleged rwc 2013!

Perth nrl avg crowd this year 17,500
S15 14,600

Lol

using your logic....and I use the word under advisement, Saracens should play all their games at Wembley given they'd average 83k



Again, Australia is not the entire southern hemisphere.........and RL isn't even the #1 code in Australia, let alone anywhere else

JB has become the new dally messenger!

Once again
Toyota cup under 20's >>>>>>>>>> S15

Come back when RU has any relevance in Australia!

Heh, a big week for Larndan RL and all gf wants do is talk about another sport



..like the logic of disenfranchising 73,000 of your fans by moving into a 10k detachable athletics stadium @Barnet you mean? The saffacens have extended the discounted season ticks offer...struggling to sell them apparently.


Gutts in talking down NRL shocker!!


NRL broadcast rights deal>>>>daylight>>>>bit more daylight>>>>stupid15.

Gutterfax is the new Dutoni...but without the humour obviously.

It wont happen but I said this a long time ago. Play RU 7's if you must but why not open it to league teams as well. GB1 & GB2 like you get in other sports at the games. GB1 could be Union GB2 League.

It can't happen because the irb want to use 7's in a pinky and brain like plan to takeover teh world...Tho you'd think they'd want Rugby League involved somehow, after all the Bulls did to single handedly re-invigorate the 7's concept in the UK...:

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...be kinda embarrassing and might lead to some awkward questions if teams consisting of RL players got Gold, Silver and Bronze

I discuss Londons RL performance, both on and off the park, in the London Boards.....this thread was about the olympics until someone whined that it wasn't fair that Union was in......


Regardless of your thoughts on the matter, please feel free to post the name of a UK RL team who averaged a bigger gate number than Saracens.....jealous much?



I don't talk it down....crowds of 7,000 or so at Penrith do that for me. The Only bone I ever had to pick with NRL fans is their insane world domination attitude, which given that RL plays second fiddle to fumbleball, is utterly insane.

It really hasn't sunk in yet has it? Nobody....and I mean nobody outside of NSW, Queensland and South Auckland gives a flying toss about the NRL or their TV deal.......the wierd thing is that most NRL fans that occupy internet forums spend far more time discussing TV viewing figures and broadcast rights contracts than they do the game.



I am Gutterfax.......I am not the new anyone jd.....though it would seem that because EA, eels, Old Darlin, dally messenger, manly4ever et al can't post on here any more due to excess frothing at the gills, you are substituting for them......badly



Back on thread.

The International Olympic Committee require a sport to be played in 75 countries for it to be considered.....that's why RL in either the XIII or IX versions will not be in the games for a while. All other conspiracy theories are just that...theories that have nothing to back them up

If you mean at their Home ground @Watford, then it'd be quicker to name the ones that didn't...they did quite well in the event games, tho a 99 yr lease on a 10k stadium @Barnet suggests that was short lived and not sustainable.


Biggest sport in 8(or was it 7? meh) out of the 10 most populated cities in Aus...and has a broadcast rights deal greater than the played in three countries stupid 15...


You forgot 18,000 ppl in Perth...Oh and a slightly dodgy fella in Wellington.

You remember the link I posted to the seppo union blog? Did you go on there and have a dig about your fellow unionites thoughts on RL? I'm guessing not.


Now Dutts...err..I mean Gutts..teh only foaming on this thread has come from a brave defender of the union faith.






Back on thread.


Yes, of course....Im sure 7's was played in the requisite number of countries back in 2009...wheres that flying pig gif gone...

Yep RU 7's was played in 75 countries and watched by a billion people!

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Fuck me it gets worse.

Nah.....unless you want the back on your manor that is



It is the simple fact that these idiots refuse to accept that RL is nowhere near as popular as RU that ensures that RL will continue to be the smaller code......this weekend, the Aussies v the AB's in something the RL fraternity call the bloodyslowcup will attract more fans to a game than any RL test over the last 10 years,,,,,,including double headers......GLOWWWWWWBALLY.

RL is a TV sport.....it is 100% reliant on TV revenue to keep it going and "quarters" to accommodate more adverts and the "coaches challenge" as suggested earlier this week point to it being further marginalised as a spectator sport in future.......

RL needs more fans like me and less like the idiots who brand me a Union troll for repeating the truth....[size=200RUGBY LEAGUE COULD LEARN A LOT FROM THE IRB.......[/size...Oh no...look...it's a Union Troll

You totally miss the obvious fact that RL does not need International games, it makes its wealth and popularity on the back of its club scene.

That great test you are bigging up will not even be as big as two states playing each other in Australia, it will get creamed in the TV viewership, the audience and the $'s it is worth by SOO. In fact I doubt it will even get close to the weekly NRL viewing figures of 2.8mill people a round (in fact just looked and both games last year drew a combined audience of just 1.9million, yes the cream of Int Ru in the Southern hemisphere couldn't even match a single NRL round!). This years 4 Wallabie tests have so far drawn a TOTAL viewing audience in Oz of 1.75 million!

I would love a stronger Int game but reality is club footy pays the bills in Australia and England and tests just aren't that important or valuable to the game.

RU needs tests to pay the bills and even then the game in some countries is financially dire, hence why they are trying to develop better domestic competitions. S15 is so on the nose that they couldn't get a fTA deal in Oz, there viewing figures pull less than 100K people a game ffs. They are reducing the salary cap because clubs are going broke. I suggest you send your ideas for improving a sport to the ARU as they need them more than RL does!

Face facts RU is not stronger than RL everywhere, you might like to think it is but in Australia it is a very distant third sport and heading down to Aleague proportions.

..To a Test Match, but not a game of RL.
Why is it sooo important to you that we talk about how big union is? This thread should've gone on to big RL nines up and its possible inclusion in the *2018 Commonwealth Games...but someone wanted to talk about a different sport instead.


So is union in NZ...more income from its broadcast deal than spectators according to John Fellet from Skytv. I'll hazard a guess and say the same about Aus...are attendences still falling in those two countries?

I suggested you were a shill not a troll

. No gutts, RL needs more supporters full stop, tho Im not sure genuflecting before the rfu is the way to go about it...

I stopped reading after this.

Face the facts, you've just changed your argument! Haha.

You were arguing that RL in Australia is bigger than RU in the entire southern hemisphere. Now it's just Australia? Well done on slyly moving the goalposts. It wasn't unnoticed though.

And this opinion is the exact reason why RL is isolated to where it is. Outside of Australia, very few care about the NRL.
Outside of Australia, a hell of a lot more care about RU. More people globally will watch major RU internationals than a 3 game test series between two states in Aus. It will get more news references because it is more global.

Australia are the single reason why RL isn't as big as it is. And the irony is they think they're the reason WHY it's as big as it is! Once you've gotten your heads out of your *rses and realise that you're not the solution you're the problem, the game might actually move forward at some kinds rate!

That's an interesting one, when I get time I'll dig out the viewing stats for S15 across the Southern Hemi and see if they come close to NRL in Oz,NZ and PNG. My gut feeling is they don't but will have a look to see if I can find any evidence.

New Zealand, France, England, Wales, South Africa, Ireland, Scotland, Italy, Argentina, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, USA, Canada, Georgia, Madagasca, Namibia, Nigeria...there are a lot more countries if you need them..................keep it up champ



1,464 France v Wales in RL.......84,000 in Union.....go on...tell us again how union struggles

Toyota cup >>>>>>>>>>> S15

No wonder sth Africa wants out!

Lol

I'm sorry JB and as much as i'd like to wholeheartedly agree with you, I can't. RL is the greatest game and NRL, SOO and Superleague are great competitions to watch. However the NRL is signing the death warrant of RL by not bothering about International RL.

RL needs a competitive international game to thrive and expand. If you took away RU's international scene then RU would be nothing with crowd figures matching those in SL and the Championship. RL needs TV money to survive and the only way it will expand and grow globally is for it to have a decent international scene.

NRL may be about to sign a billion dollar deal but in the UK superleague is struggling. If we had a good international scene then we would entice larger sponsorship and in turn larger tv deals. If sky were to pull out of RL then there would only be 1 country in the world with a full time professional league. How many full time professional leagues does RU have?

Problem is the NRL cannot make England, wales, france or any other country competitive. The apathy in international rl is due to the fact that Australia is so dominant and most games are not competitive. Bringing warriors in has aided NZ and moves are afoot to do more with png. Beyond that what exactly do you think the nrl could/should be doing to develop the international game?

Nrl clubs will play PNG and USA this pre season, not much but better than SL club will be doing.

It was the RFL that ditched the GB Lions and Ashes series, our biggest profile international competition.

Like it or not, in Australia nrl brings in the money and is what people are interested in, hence why rl urinates on RU from a great height in this part of the world.

For me I'd like to see GB back, proper 3 test ashes series and proper tours, world nines in per season and more work done in the PI but that all takes money and the RLIF has none.

You'd be wasting your time, as you do realise that isn't comparing RL with RU. That's comparing NRL with S15.

If you're going to compare two sports, you can't select a competition in each and then pick a few selective countries. It's a terrible argument. Might work with a few idiot ockers down in the pub, but it's getting ripped to shreds on here.

Ok let's agree on
NRL>>>>>>>>>S15
SOO>>>>>>>>>int RU (inOz)
RU is not stronger than RL EVERYWHERE like gutters has stated

And leave it at that.