Bird was probably allowed in as a Sports Visitor.

But his visa is valid for 3 years or until he changes employment, so I doubt UKBA will have been doing background checks every time he comes back into the country, they'll just check his visa is current, which it is. It's only now that he's had to apply to extend his visa that he may find problems. It depends if UKBA have relaxed their stance or not from a couple of years ago.

Well the only that applies to him is "c" and "d". I don't know if living here for 3 years is enough to get a passport, and the GBH conviction wouldn't help him gain a British passport either.
Well because the eligibility rules for international rugby league are different to the rules necessary to be a UK citizen.

Manu Tuilagi also seemed to have a bit of a Visa issue before he made his debut for England RU IIRC.

Also worth noting Grant Millington has said Chase has been training "really hard" all week with Cas.

I think it'd be easier to argue that it is the qualifications required to play for England RL are crazy, rather than the employment system. But they don't look very different to RU, for example, or possibly cricket (could be wrong on the latter, not really up on it).
The laws of the country and the rules of RL are not integrated; though its clear which take precedence. The England RL team has no official legal standing.

Bird still had to satisfy the general immigration rules for each entry, regardless of how he was coming in, which was my beef at the time, but that's past history.

I would hope, not just cos he's apparently off to Hull, that the fact Rangi got back in after declaring the conviction means he shouldn't have problem now. UKBA can't have it both ways.

The only problem I can imagine is time - getting it done before the deadline - if its a double check job. And Kosh reckons Crocker was registered without a visa - if so it doesn't matter. Or maybe it does because would Hull pay Cas to transfer the registration without being 100% certain a visa would be granted? Head hurts. Somebody will know whats going on and even if they worked for the HDM (and tbf journalists can't be experts on every subject they have to knock out copy on), they'll spin it out to the last.
I'd be (at least slightly) surprised if he isn't sorted by friday. Timely boost and all that.

That is madness although I'm sure his status as an England player should be more than enough to comply with a visa. Deporting a current England international would be ludicrous.

Well this thread was a bit premature. Obviously someone got a bit over excited.

Chase unable to gain new visa before deadline. Won't be playing for Hull this season.

Hull may try to sign him for next season, apparently there's a shortlist of 4 halfbacks that we're looking into.

I imagine someone at Cas will be in for a right kicking - their refusal to take the offers that were made for Chase earlier in the season has left them with a player who doesn't want to play for the club, a massive salary to pay for the rest of this year and a large, £300k shaped hole in their bank account.

You couldn't make it up!

All that means is he has gone from pints to shots.

He is on his way. The only question is when.

It also leaves them with a lot of bad feeling amongst their fans to one of their key players. Not good.




It's ridiculous that he's able to play for England if he struggles to get a Visa to work in the country. He should not have played for England.

Or shouldn't have got a visa?

Confucius say: International eligibility and nationality are not the same


Ommmmm

I still think he is rubbish and i would sooner have dobson and green any day I would not have him at rovers if he was free and i don't think he should play for England

Well, that's told us hasn't it!!!

Why, he isn't British no matter what country he plays for. If his conviction has made him ineligible for a visa thats his own fault for being stupid.

This isn't rugby league being rubbish, incidentally. [url=http://www.nottsccc.co.uk/news/2012/july/renegades-contract-will-alter-pattinsons-status.htmlEngland international Darren Pattinson will be classed as an overseas player next season should he re-sign with Nottinghamshire[/url. Darren Pattinson was born in Grimsby, for informations sake.

if he doesn't now have a visa, how can he stay at Cas?

I think the visa he currently has is OK until the end of the season. The regulations have changed since he got his last visa and so changing it is difficult. Whether he has these same problems at the end of the season remains to be seen.

A visa has to be reapplied for if he changes employer, for the next three years at Cas he will have a valid visa. If (when) he leaves at the end of the year, he will have to apply for a new one.

Re: Rangi Chase.
From what I understand he has been refused a visa. This is because, since his last visa was approved, he has earned himself a conviction for GBH. This will still be the case in 6 months and beyond, and is likely to stop him getting another British visa.
It's unfortunate for Hull that his inability to get a visa means he is unable to change employers. However, it might be more unfortunate for Cas who may have a big problem should Chase need to renew his visa before the end of his current contract (the depends on the conditions of his existing visa).
His only options may be Catalans or NZ Warriors as the Australians are more strict than the UK with regards to visas.

Isn't he an Australian national?
(I know he played for NZ Maori but always thought he was born and brought up in Aus)

EDIT: Just googled him, lived in NZ until he went to High School.

By not being able to get a visa he would be in breach of contract and Cas wouldn't to pay him, unless there's a clause in his contract that says they must do no matter what. That kind of clause is very unlikely.

The interview with Pearson is pretty interesting (for FC fans atleast). www.hullfc.com/tv.aspx?v=tZfKdYE ... zmElQlxA==

The interview with Pearson is pretty interesting (for FC fans atleast). www.hullfc.com/tv.aspx?v=tZfKdYE ... zmElQlxA==

Quote ="Panda92"The interview with Pearson is pretty interesting (for FC fans atleast). www.hullfc.com/tv.aspx?v=tZfKdYE ... zmElQlxA=='" I don't like what he said along the lines of, 'we will continue to invest in players until we win something. I know how much I can afford.' It's like he has left a small fry football club and because he now feels like a big shot in a smaller budget game he feels that he can use his financial position to bully other clubs, like a small scale Abramovich. That kind of attitude isn't good for sport.

Quote ="Panda92"The interview with Pearson is pretty interesting (for FC fans atleast). www.hullfc.com/tv.aspx?v=tZfKdYE ... zmElQlxA=='" I don't like what he said along the lines of, 'we will continue to invest in players until we win something. I know how much I can afford.' It's like he has left a small fry football club and because he now feels like a big shot in a smaller budget game he feels that he can use his financial position to bully other clubs, like a small scale Abramovich. That kind of attitude isn't good for sport.