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| Quote ="McClennan"Don't get me wrong. At times I've suffered.'"
...and understandably so.
But you never got round to telling us who it was that told you "...its absolutely gutting being called attractive."?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"...and understandably so.
But you never got round to telling us who it was that told you "...its absolutely gutting being called attractive."?
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Well, I was presenting the regular sports featurettes on a local BBC television station in the north when...
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| Quote ="bren2k"There have been some slightly Richard Keys-esque comments in this thread but equally, some massive over reactions.
Ms Arnold is a young woman working in a male-dominated industry, covering a male-dominated sport and doing quite nicely thank you; I'm sure that as a result, she's developed a reasonably thick skin and a robust sense of humour and so is perfectly able to handle quips about her husky voice. The other stuff about her relative attractiveness or otherwise appears par for the course for women in the media and whilst not especially edifying, is hardly a cause for hysteria.
There seems to be cottage industry in this country of people who become offended on other peoples behalf - I'm not sure it's very helpful.'"
You are right. It happens, she can probably handle it. Doesn't make it right and doesn't mean she likes handling it.
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| Best news is the people that have produced the complete joke of a show for past few years are no longer doing so and it's a new company working on it.
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| I wish someone would objectify me and my sexy husky voice.
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| Quote ="Wire In The Final"Best news is the people that have produced the complete joke of a show for past few years are no longer doing so and it's a new company working on it.'"
Best bit of news on the entire thread.
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| Quote ="oxford-pie-eater"What are they putting in the ale up there to make anyone think Tanya Arnold's a MILF?! If you think that, you'd probably fancy Eddie Hemmings in a wig and knee high boots.'"
Never say never.
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| Quote ="bren2k"There seems to be cottage industry in this country of people who become offended on other peoples behalf - I'm not sure it's very helpful.'"
Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"That's an absolutely gash comment, unhelpful to whom, the tools who think it's big & clever (in a schoolboy kind of way I guess) to pass such comments knowing there won't be anything/anybody to say anything back to them? It's not only sticking up for another human being who should not have to be defending themselves in the first place from unwarranted nasty 'banter'
, it's about what is acceptable. To me the comments made are unacceptable, if a bloke in the street said something in a similar vein to a member of my family or a friend whilst I was with them I'd address them and ask why they felt the need to make such comment. That it is someone I don't happen to know really doesn't make much difference, the comments are still unwarranted.
Not only that but from your own comment it seems to be the wrong thing to do to stick up for people in this type of situation or is that you're not prepared to stick up for your friends or even a complete stranger if they are being bullied?'"
The prosecution rests.
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| Quote ="bren2k"The prosecution rests.'"
Really, so you had nothing 'smart' to come back with to uphold your comment? You sir are a lame apologist for the others, I demand satisfaction..pistols at dawn it is
okay mate, I can see you admit you're in the wrong so we'll leave it at that.
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| Fine I'll even it out...
Brian Carney looks like a girl and Phil Clarke is a handsome chap.
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| The sexual tension between Tanya & Brian Noble is unreal.
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| Quote ="bren2k"The prosecution rests.'"
How did you get to that conclusion from what appears to be a very sincere grievance about the nature of the thread conversation?
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| Quote ="McClennan"How did you get to that conclusion from what appears to be a very sincere grievance about the nature of the thread conversation?'"
It struck me as precisely the kind of blustering, faux-outrage that typifies exactly what I was trying to describe - the habit that some people have developed of being offended on other peoples behalf.
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| Quote ="bren2k"It struck me as precisely the kind of blustering, faux-outrage that typifies exactly what I was trying to describe - the habit that some people have developed of being offended on other peoples behalf.'"
So we shouldn't argue against people who like to put others down on commodify people on accounts of their gender.
Do you adopt the same attitude to racism?
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"Do you adopt the same attitude to racism?'"
Do me a favour love.
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| If Tanya's reading this I bet she's gutted that some of the keyboard Brad Pitts on here, might not find her to their impecable tastes in women.
Still I'm sure in time she'll get over it.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Do me favour love.'"
I'd rather not thanks.
If you can't see a similarity between overt sexism and overt racism in terms of ideology and principle then I'm sure as hell not going to do you the favour of having to explain it to you (sweety).
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| Why has this not been locked?
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"If you can't see a similarity between overt sexism and overt racism in terms of ideology and principle then I'm sure as hell not going to do you the favour of having to explain it to you (sweety).'"
Precisely my point - no decent person would condone or apologise for the things you've described, neither of which have happened in this thread; hence my suggestion that the habit of simpering, guardian-reading, local authority employees who become outrageously offended on other peoples behalf, regardless of whether that person is offended or not, is not especially helpful.
And your leap to racism? Very poor form.
Anyway - Eddie Hemmings and his wig/Stevo and his catchphrase tourettes/Clarkey and his one (cherry & white) eye - are they still fair game, or will the humour police be protecting their interests next season too?
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| Quote ="TV BOY"Why has this not been locked?'"
Maybe because it gives half the posters the opportunity to observe what a good appointment this is, and that she is a highly capable presenter; and the other half, another opportunity to make fools of themselves?
I'm sure Tanya is quite used to shrugging off comments about her voice, and the inevitable innuendos that follow; in the same way she probably does not get very excited either about folk observing they find her attractive, and the inevitable innuendos that in some cases seem to follow THAT? My guess is she would be more concerned if folk were saying she was not capable at her job, and was picked for some other reason. So, if she was minded to read this thread, I suspect she'd be pleased that her appointment on professional grounds has been widely applauded?
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| Much prefer her to Angela 'danger' Powers, on a more serious note.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Maybe because it gives half the posters the opportunity to observe what a good appointment this is, and that she is a highly capable presenter; and the other half, another opportunity to make fools of themselves?
I'm sure Tanya is quite used to shrugging off comments about her voice, and the inevitable innuendos that follow; in the same way she probably does not get very excited either about folk observing they find her attractive, and the inevitable innuendos that in some cases seem to follow THAT? My guess is she would be more concerned if folk were saying she was not capable at her job, and was picked for some other reason. So, if she was minded to read this thread, I suspect she'd be pleased that her appointment on professional grounds has been widely applauded?'"
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| Quote ="bren2k"Precisely my point - no decent person would condone or apologise for the things you've described, neither of which have happened in this thread; hence my suggestion that the habit of simpering, guardian-reading, local authority employees who become outrageously offended on other peoples behalf, regardless of whether that person is offended or not, is not especially helpful.
And your leap to racism? Very poor form.
Anyway - Eddie Hemmings and his wig/Stevo and his catchphrase tourettes/Clarkey and his one (cherry & white) eye - are they still fair game, or will the humour police be protecting their interests next season too?'"
Course there's no overt sexism on this thread.
Try looking again at the third post on this thread. Now, how could anyone possible construe 'MILF' to be an overtly sexist response to an OP about a broadcasting position?
And I'm sorry you see the link between racism and sexism as a 'leap'. At least two other posts on this thread have already made this connection...as have about 3 million google results.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Maybe because it gives half the posters the opportunity to observe what a good appointment this is, and that she is a highly capable presenter; and the other half, another opportunity to make fools of themselves?
I'm sure Tanya is quite used to shrugging off comments about her voice, and the inevitable innuendos that follow; in the same way she probably does not get very excited either about folk observing they find her attractive, and the inevitable innuendos that in some cases seem to follow THAT? My guess is she would be more concerned if folk were saying she was not capable at her job, and was picked for some other reason. So, if she was minded to read this thread, I suspect she'd be pleased that her appointment on professional grounds has been widely applauded?'"
Well put AdeyBull.
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