Fair enough, obviously if this isn't true then there's nothing to see here. If it is true then I think the sentiment still rings true - last week Leneghan was talking wanting to give young British players a chance in relation to off-season signings (specifically in relation to the centre position), and so clearly if he signed a centre from down-under a week later this would seem strange.

Anyway, we'll wait and see.

FIOS

You'll be glad to hear those young British centres are either in the squad for next season already or were signed today in the case of a certain Rhodri Lloyd, an 18 year old from South Wales Scorpions.

Saddened - showing newbies how to fail at trolling since 2003.

Fail of a thread

Burnt at the stake

How does this young lad meet the UKBA criteria for a visa when Championship clubs seem to fail when trying to sign players of this experience?

I raised that point a few pages back and none of the Wigan fans could offer an explanation. It's very strange. You see current NRL players turned down because they've not played enough games, yet this is a player who hasn't played any that I know of.

It will be interesting to hear why, potentially something to do with his age or nationality? I think he's from the Cook Islands.

If you have any evidence that Wigan are breaking the cap, speak to the RFL. If you don't, be quiet.

We don't make the rules despite what you think Saddo..... Like other clubs, we just find ways to bend them...

I've not suggested they are breaking the rules. Where have I said that? By 'abuse' I mean are they benefiting in ways the new rules they suggested were not intended, not that they are breaking rules.

The bit you quoted above it about work permits and immigration. You need to read before you post.

and you need to get a life and stop worrying about Wigan and start worrying about Paul Wellens at full back next season.

Martin aside all our signings have played lots of first team NRL games including this season, Aspinwall will add depth, Lynch is an excellent signings and Ellis will add cover in our halfs. You have signed a player that has never played a first team game, that along with Lauaki who was our worst player last year on a long term deal, seems like 2 strange signings. I'd still expect Wigan to finish in the top 2 next year and maybe win one of the two trophies, but I think they could go this without the signings of these two overseas player, same as I don't think martin will make any different to how we do.

As for Seymour if you have seen him play he is a pretty good player and if he head is right will do well in SL, got injured and couldn't get his place back to the outstanding young talent at the Warriors.

Forget other peoples signings I just can't see how anyone can justify this signings.

If Wigan are 'benefiting', then so can every other club.

The SC is all about a level playing field after all, is it not?

As I've said above I think you will do well, but could have done that without the signings of Gelling and maybe Lauaki.

Can't really compare Gelling to Deacon or Carmont who both were very experienced players, this is more like a Patrick Ah Van signing.

Still have a good side though nobody can argue with that, think Wane will have Lauaki in the 17 though.

It used to be. Most clubs now won't be on a level playing field at all.

You should be lucky it exists at all as Wigan are showing signs of becoming frustrated with being held back by fairness and wanting to spend their way to success like in the 80s and 90s.

No, its not, sadly.

If you have a wealthy owner, there are plenty of ways that you can drive a coach and horses through the salary cap. Plenty. I bloody well could. Some of them are even legal and within the rules - image rights paid by an "unconnected" third party, or the guy's spouse/partner being employed by a mate of the owner, to name but two.

Not a pop at Wigan btw - not at all. Never had any problems at all with Wigan fans (bar the odd latecomer glory supporter, like we've all had)) - they were always fine and totally reasonable even in that period when Wigan were pants by their own standards. And hell, I even used to be a mod on a Wigan unofficial forum once, and it was as sensible RL discussion as you could find on the whole internet. Its a pop at the system. Look at the squads; look at where the money is; and go figure?

And yes, this IS sour grapes by a fan of a club that does not have a wealthy owner and whose club is therefore permanently handicapped relative to those clubs that do. The very sourest. Excruciatingly sour. And if the fans of clubs like Cas and Wakey say tough tìttie, welcome to the real world, their argument is totally irrefutable, because they are right.

Because weve got the RFL and the UK border agency in our back pocket. Did you not know?



Your now also saying this player hasnt played any NRL games that you know of yet earlier in the thread you quite clearly labelled him as an NRL centre? Make your mind up

Or did you just call him an NRL centre to strengthen your earlier argument?

He has been in the system of two NRL clubs. Therefore I called him an NRL centre. It's not rocket science.

Saddened does make a valid point though.... which seems to be being ignored.

How does he qualify for a work permit?

And you and Saddened are both missing a valid point, he hasn't signed yet. He might not get a work permit.

On another note though, he's from the Cook Islands, doesn't that make Visa's easier?

oh fair enough....I thought he had signed.

So anybody who has been in Wigans system at a level below the first team playing centre is a super league centre?



Dont be such a fool and stop making up crap to support your arguments.

I think the point being made is; Why did Wigan have to go the RFL for a special dispensation to increase the SC to keep a player, when, by signing more players (and being in discussion with at least one other) AFTER that dispensation was granted, this proves they clearly already had cap space left so therefore did not actually need the dispensation in the first place?

Probably because they'd just lost a player to Union, it was an issue that needed dealing with anyway, and it's not special dispensation at all, it's applied to all clubs who have players that represent England at international level.

I agree that Tomkins needed to kept in the sport but, Wigan's recruitment post this special dispensation suggests they didn't need it anyway.