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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Caught the last couple of minutes on telly while stuck in work, and it seemed the only empty spaces were, as with say 100% of RFL events, the premium seats in the centre that are charged top price (£30 today FFS) or are left for sponsors who don't turn up.
They could have played the game at any northern Super League ground and it wouldn't have been a swing of more than 1,000 either way.'"
You think £30 to watch an International Game of RL in the Premium Seats is expensive?
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| Quote ="Bartholemew Smythe"So out of interest what`s the official parking at the HJ like compared to the LSV?'"
Can't comment never parked , one across the road so never needed too. Z not enough car parking anywhere at LSV.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Caught the last couple of minutes on telly while stuck in work, and it seemed the only empty spaces were, as with say 100% of RFL events, the premium seats in the centre that are charged top price (£30 today FFS) or are left for sponsors who don't turn up.
They could have played the game at any northern Super League ground and it wouldn't have been a swing of more than 1,000 either way.'"
Matt ...............Lister and the other VTknobs are not worthy of holding an adult conversation with...they`ve got ulterior reasons, unionists.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"You think £30 to watch an International Game of RL in the Premium Seats is expensive?
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They were RFL seats , earmarked for sponsors , they didn't turn up apparently
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| Quote ="Eaton"Can't comment never parked , one across the road so never needed too. Z not enough car parking anywhere at LSV.'"
You `ve never been to the LSV if you spout that have you.
The LSV has greater free parking than the HJ, PieDome and more than most.
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| Quote ="Starbug"They were RFL seats , earmarked for sponsors , they didn't turn up apparently'"
And? That wasn't what I posted
Leyther_Matt seems disgusted by the £30 price tag.
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| Quote ="Bartholemew Smythe"Matt ...............Lister and the other VTknobs are not worthy of holding an adult conversation with...they`ve got ulterior reasons, unionists.'"
Unionists?!
I think you need to go for a lie down and lay off the personal insults, I'm getting quite offended now.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Unionists?!
I think you need to go for a lie down and lay off the personal insults, I'm getting quite offended now.'"
I could n`t possibly sleep now if I knew you were insulted.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"And? That wasn't what I posted
Leyther_Matt seems disgusted by the £30 price tag.'"
He was guessing , I've been told for definate , the middle two blocks were designated for sponsors by the RFL , nobody could buy them no matter what the price was , the rest of the stadium was either at or nearly at capacity , it just made it look bad on TV
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"You think £30 to watch an International Game of RL in the Premium Seats is expensive?
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When there are tickets for £10 for the same game then, yes, I do. And with all respect to the Welsh side, the result was never likely to be in doubt, was it, nor are they of the quality to charge £10+ more than your average Super League game, particularly when there are seats to fill for the other games. Take a look at any of the internationals for x number of years and you will notice the empty seats are much more obvious in the more expensive areas nearer the halfway line.
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| It was odd to have both matches within a few miles of each other. Presumably, there were no modest sized stadia avaiable in Yorkshire?
Looked a better turnout for the NZ v Oz match on telly. Presumbly, that was because it was seen as more of a match?
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"When there are tickets for £10 for the same game then, yes, I do. And with all respect to the Welsh side, the result was never likely to be in doubt, was it, nor are they of the quality to charge £10+ more than your average Super League game, particularly when there are seats to fill for the other games. Take a look at any of the internationals for x number of years and you will notice the empty seats are much more obvious in the more expensive areas nearer the halfway line.'"
You must be seething about the Wembley pricing then. Some people will be paying £60 on Saturday when others have paid £10. I think £30 to watch a team of England's quality is reasonable. You'll pay more for the best seats at many Super League matches.
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| Quote ="Starbug"He was guessing , I've been told for definate , the middle two blocks were designated for sponsors by the RFL , nobody could buy them no matter what the price was , the rest of the stadium was either at or nearly at capacity , it just made it look bad on TV'"
Like I said, that wasn't what I was questioning, but feel free to keep on ranting
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"You must be seething about the Wembley pricing then. Some people will be paying £60 on Saturday when others have paid £10. I think £30 to watch a team of England's quality is reasonable. You'll pay more for the best seats at many Super League matches.'"
Lister are you attending Wembley?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"You must be seething about the Wembley pricing then. Some people will be paying £60 on Saturday when others have paid £10. I think £30 to watch a team of England's quality is reasonable. You'll pay more for the best seats at many Super League matches.'"
Yes but don't forget £ 30 is close to a weeks wage up here , not like you London Bankers on 200 grand a year
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| Quote ="Bartholemew Smythe"Lister are you attending Wembley?'"
Yeah, I like London.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Yes but don't forget £ 30 is close to a weeks wage up here , not like you London Bankers on 200 grand a year
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Must be a tough decision for the tomkins brothers whether to play in front of 9000 at leigh or 70000 at twickers. the national game is an embarrassment'"
No, the embarrassment is s like you whinging and moaning about the size of the crowd with bothering to get your backside there yourself.
9000 isn't a bad crowd against Wales when we are in the middle of the worst recession in recent memory, England play at Wembley next week and it is live on free to air TV, add into that LSV being a pain to get to by public transport.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"I doubt the crowd numbers will have anything to do with their decision. They either love £££ or the game of Rugby League.'" I reckon it plays a huge part IMO. The more people watching you on a regular basis the more popular you become and the bigger your contract / sponsorship deals will become. Not to mention the additional opportunities a big popularity can present to you when you should retire. In both codes you are only that one injury away from ending your RL career or in the worst case scenario your entire working career. I wouldn't blame any player jumping at the chance to earn more £££ during the career.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"I reckon it plays a huge part IMO. The more people watching you on a regular basis the more popular you become and the bigger your contract / sponsorship deals will become. Not to mention the additional opportunities a big popularity can present to you when you should retire. In both codes you are only that one injury away from ending your RL career or in the worst case scenario your entire working career. I wouldn't blame any player jumping at the chance to earn more £££ during the career.'"
So basically it still all boils down to money though. I don't dispute any of your points btw. I wouldn't particularly blame them either but put it this way - if England RL was played infront of 70k at Wembley on a regular basis, yet the players earned the same money, would they move? No doubt about it. Even if RL took off in a big way, it'll take a long time to get near the money backing International RU.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"No, the embarrassment is s like you whinging and moaning about the size of the crowd with bothering to get your backside there yourself.
9000 isn't a bad crowd against Wales when we are in the middle of the worst recession in recent memory, England play at Wembley next week and it is live on free to air TV, add into that LSV being a pain to get to by public transport.'"
But the LSV is n`t a pain to get to apart from folks who want to make that an excuse...like you.
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| Quote ="Bartholemew Smythe"But the LSV is n`t a pain to get to apart from folks who want to make that an excuse...like you.'"
It would probably take the same amount of time to get from Leeds, for example, to the LSV, than it would do to Wembley, via public Transport and a taxi.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"It would probably take the same amount of time to get from Leeds, for example, to the LSV, than it would do to Wembley, via public Transport and a taxi.'"
Are you having a laugh?! It took me no more than 2 hours to travel by train from Leigh to Dewsbury earlier in the season and that included a beer stop in Manchester and Huddersfield!
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| Quote ="Bartholemew Smythe"But the LSV is n`t a pain to get to apart from folks who want to make that an excuse...like you.'"
1. It is very easy to get to by car, I know, I've done it.
2. A train and a bus ride is a pain in the backside even when there isn't a game on, ditto, I've done it.
3. Sadly there was more keeping me away from the game than public transport.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"So basically it still all boils down to money though. I don't dispute any of your points btw. I wouldn't particularly blame them either but put it this way - if England RL was played infront of 70k at Wembley on a regular basis, yet the players earned the same money, would they move? No doubt about it. Even if RL took off in a big way, it'll take a long time to get near the money backing International RU.'"
Yeah I see what your saying but international RU has money because it is well supported, if they received the same level of support as international RL sides then the lure wouldn't be as great IMO. I think the money is an added bonus though, I mean if your talking minimal differences such as £1-5000 more a year and your RL contract is already half decent most would stay where they are happy. However when your talking maybe an extra £50000 on your salary a year, your not really doing your family any justice if you was to turn that down. We all know where the problem is though, our salary cap is not big enough to keep our top players in this code but its too big for most clubs to be able to fulfill.
Something needs to be changed to keep these players in our game.
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