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| Quote ="RyanWire"Give over, props drive the ball in not throw passes before they hit the line.'"
Graham drives the ball 200 metres a game fool!
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From a Salford point of view its great to see ritchie in the squad, but I'm must also mention Luke Adamson the guy is a machine easily been as good as, if not better than Myler this year.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Graham drives the ball 200 metres a game fool!
He has doubled the meterage of most props in SL whilst playing fewer games.'"
You should learn to use stats properly. Morley might have made 600 less meters but his meters per carry is far higher, probably because he actually drives in with some force. |
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| Quote ="RyanWire"You should learn to use stats properly. Morley might have made 600 less meters but his meters per carry is far higher, probably because he actually drives in with some force.'"
Seriously, are you questioning how good James Graham is?  |
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I can't say I'm surprised by Dire fans thinking Morley is a better player than Graham. After all, it's a looooong time since they've seen a decent player in primrose and blue.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Seriously, are you questioning how good James Graham is?
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He aint as good as Morley thats all. He is good tho. |
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| Quote ="RyanWire"He aint as good as Morley thats all. He is good tho.'"
Morley is very good, but graham is one of the best forwards in the world |
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"No Lee Smith is probably the biggest shock. He’s no doubt the most talented English rugby league in this country on form.'"
Why is it a shock when it's not the completed squad?  |
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Morley is very good, but graham is one of the best forwards in the world'"
Morley proven himself in the best league week in week out, Peacock has proven himself to be the best in SL for many years. Graham is at best 3rd in this country and not even nearly one of the best in the world. |
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| Quote ="RyanWire"Morley proven himself in the best league week in week out, Peacock has proven himself to be the best in SL for many years. Graham is at best 3rd in this country and not even nearly one of the best in the world.'"
Sadly for Wire fans in the days when Televisions were still in black and white... |
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| Quote ="RyanWire"Morley proven himself in the best league week in week out, Peacock has proven himself to be the best in SL for many years. Graham is at best 3rd in this country and not even nearly one of the best in the world.'"
You are correct, 5 yrs ago |
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| Quote ="RyanWire"He aint as good as Morley thats all. He is good tho.'"
Not a chance.........anymore.
I wonder what people watch sometimes tbh- Morley better then Graham, Purdham better then O'Loughlin, Fa'savalau better then Lynch..........oooo hang on that last one actually happened! |
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Not a chance.........anymore.
I wonder what people watch sometimes tbh- Morley better then Graham, Purdham better then O'Loughlin, Fa'savalau better then Lynch..........oooo hang on that last one actually happened!'"
Graham>Morley
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| Quote ="Kelvin's Ferret"I'd like to see Richard Horne stake a claim at fullback, I think he's another one like Pryce who could be international class outside of the halves.'"
The problem for Richard Horne is that he has had his chance at international level. His performance at stand-off in Australia replacing Long when he returned home was one of the worst I've seen from an international halfback.
By contrast Morley has consistently shown he is capable at performing at international level. Similarly Westwood got a chance at the world cup and was arguably one of England's best players hence the reason he kept his spot for the semi final (as did Rob Purdham for same reason).
The reason the jury is still out on Graham is that unlike his excellent form at club level, his performances at international level last year were poor, particularly in relation to Morley and Peacock. |
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| Quote ="nathanwood7"The problem for Richard Horne is that he has had his chance at international level. His performance at stand-off in Australia replacing Long when he returned home was one of the worst I've seen from an international halfback.
By contrast Morley has consistently shown he is capable at performing at international level. Similarly Westwood got a chance at the world cup and was arguably one of England's best players hence the reason he kept his spot for the semi final (as did Rob Purdham for same reason).
The reason the jury is still out on Graham is that unlike his excellent form at club level, his performances at international level last year were poor, particularly in relation to Morley and Peacock.'"
Stop being sensible and coming up with valid points to support you argument. |
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Now, I may be well off the mark here, but I get the impression that the 17 chosen so far will get the chance to work together and do a bit of bonding, before the other 13 roll up nearer to the French game. The thinking may well be that after the St Helens/Leeds supposed split in the WC camp last year, the squad is being assembled as a UNIT as against different little groups.
As for HKR having no players in the initial 17 but maybe going top of the table if they beat Wigan, so what? The preceding 3 paragraphs were saying how rubbish the whole thing was....and then he says it's an incentive to HKR......make your mind up!
Blogs are OK for venting your spleen, but to go into print and AGAIN quote HKR this and HKR that is just sloppy journalism...nothing new in Rugby League though. |
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Now, I may be well off the mark here, but I get the impression that the 17 chosen so far will get the chance to work together and do a bit of bonding, before the other 13 roll up nearer to the French game. The thinking may well be that after the St Helens/Leeds supposed split in the WC camp last year, the squad is being assembled as a UNIT as against different little groups.
As for HKR having no players in the initial 17 but maybe going top of the table if they beat Wigan, so what? The preceding 3 paragraphs were saying how rubbish the whole thing was....and then he says it's an incentive to HKR......make your mind up!
Blogs are OK for venting your spleen, but to go into print and AGAIN quote HKR this and HKR that is just sloppy journalism...nothing new in Rugby League though. | |
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Quote "it's 2pm Thursday, there's that blessed deadline for that silly squad thing, just shove out 17 names will you. Atkins, Briscoe .." "Shaun or Tom ?" "Er, Tom ..."'"
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Quote "it's 2pm Thursday, there's that blessed deadline for that silly squad thing, just shove out 17 names will you. Atkins, Briscoe .." "Shaun or Tom ?" "Er, Tom ..."'"
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Now, I may be well off the mark here, but I get the impression that the 17 chosen so far will get the chance to work together and do a bit of bonding, before the other 13 roll up nearer to the French game. The thinking may well be that after the St Helens/Leeds supposed split in the WC camp last year, the squad is being assembled as a UNIT as against different little groups.
As for HKR having no players in the initial 17 but maybe going top of the table if they beat Wigan, so what? The preceding 3 paragraphs were saying how rubbish the whole thing was....and then he says it's an incentive to HKR......make your mind up!
Blogs are OK for venting your spleen, but to go into print and AGAIN quote HKR this and HKR that is just sloppy journalism...nothing new in Rugby League though.'"
At the minute, as a 17 man squad, it is rubbish. But it's going to expand to become something a little more structured (at least I hope) and there's an obvious incentive to players that have missed out to be part of that. |
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Wha'? I'd like to see at least Briscoe and Fox get call ups. If they don't then Smith needs to see a psychiatrist! If he's "refreshing" the squad (which is questionable given that 17) then Murrell would also be a good addition.'"
Too much of a rsik of injury, they are HKR players first in my mind and I hope none of ours get the call, let the other clubs cop the injuries. |
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"At the minute, as a 17 man squad, it is rubbish. But it's going to expand to become something a little more structured (at least I hope) and there's an obvious incentive to players that have missed out to be part of that.'"
it isn't a 17 mand squad....it is the first 17 names of an elite squad. At no stage in any of the RFL releases does it say it is a playing squad.....just the first 17 names on what will become a 30 man elite squad. |
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| Quote ="gutterfax"it isn't a 17 mand squad....it is the first 17 names of an elite squad. At no stage in any of the RFL releases does it say it is a playing squad.....just the first 17 names on what will become a 30 man elite squad.'"
Exactly. It's a squad of 17 men, not a playing squad. So what's the reason for naming it at all at this point? |
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