So back to the question can Cas make top 4?
If we keep a injury list to a min, esp Sherwin, we have just as good chance as any other teams. But saying that I don't think we will make top 4.
A lot of teams and other fans are still disrespecting Cas in 2009. This is not the Cas team of 2008. We have made a number of changes and kept a good spine of the "capable" players of 2008.
Ryan McGoldrick Playing his Best. Exellent at joining attacking line from FB
Richard Owen Promising youngster, good finisher. Eng international?
Micheal Shenton Probably the best centre in SL. Me been Biased?
Kirk Dixon Dont know what to think about kirk.
Brent Sherwin Playing out of his skin. Cas different team without him.
Mitchell Sargent Absalute workhorse.
Craig Huby Another home grown. Startng to mature into a SL Player.
Liam Higgins As above.
Ryan Boyle As above.
Joe Westerman Rated 2nd best youngerster worldwide in 2008
The only player we should have kept who left was Luke Dorn (could have cover sherwin if injured).

Signings
James Evans Good defenisve player. Also shown he can finish
Rangi Chase Starting to come into his own, good partner for Sherwin
Ryan Hudson Controls the ruck well.. Welcome back Ryan
Kirk Netherton Good player to rotate with Hudson from bench
Brett Ferres Good all rounder
Stuart Jones Goes unnoticed...another workhorse
Sione Faumuina Capble to be a genius also capable of a libilty
Chris Feather Big strong runner

With a mixture of Youth and experiance in 2009 squad, Cas Tigers a a dark horse this year. I think we will finish 5/6th this year.

Leeds
St Helens
Hull FC
Wakefield
Cas
Huddersfield
Wigan
Quinns

Dam thats really hard to say this year, whos coming where.
Leeds, St's top. Celtic, Salford Bottom. Fight belween the rest.
Going to be closest SL season to date.

GL to all teams even more to the Tigers

Just feel obliged to point out that FC were poor on Friday, Cas were not good.

Not good but still got the 2 points from a team previously unbeaten in 5, at home ?

Do you not think we made you look crap ?

Anyway it doesn't matter 2 points from one Hull trip will do for me

We made ourselves look poor I am afraid, we just "wern't at the races" to coin a Kearism.

Having said that, you can only play what's in front of you, having a referee in your pocket helped mind.

Oh yeah, we have all the refs in our pocket, castleford are well known for beeing favoured by the rfl.



Your not great at being dignified in defeat are you?

Suppose you could say that both ways, you were guilty of holding down a lot and didn't get punished for it. You clearly knocked on a few times and he played on.

Anyway enough of that, can't wait to meet you all in Scotland again !

Don't expect 2 points though

I can be dignified when beaten by a better team, as we where more often than not last season, what I dont like is a useless referee that can't even count to 6 and a coach that seemed to forget that you take players off when they are clearly knackered.

I wasn't being ingracious, just thought people needed to undetsand that it was 60% FC being completely shoite and 40% Sherwin running the game.

So you dont think the best team on the night won?

Most hull fans dont seem to.

I think the team that performed best did, not necessarily the best team.

A bit like when we beat Wakey in the CC semi, if Brough had been able to kick then we'd have not been at Wemlbey, similar to us and Tickle on friday.

Anyway, crack on with your small club syndrome, the adults are talking.

Small club syndrome? just because i think your a sore loser?

I think cas will struggle later in the season. They have a small squad and are likely to be hit badly when they get a few injuries. Don't think their forwards are good enough to keep it going all season either.

To put things in perspective, Hull were awful on Friday and still would have won if Tickle had kicked any of the 3 conversions he missed, plus they still have Raynor, Tony, King, Washbrook, Luakai and (fingers crossed) Crocker to add to the side from Friday.

cas are this season's wakefield. A few wins early on and they're suddenly grand finalists in waiting. Long season and plenty of water to run under the bridge yet

Sorry but that is completely laughable,

Chase was one of our best players on the pitch and ripped you to shreads

McGoldrick didn't do too bad again with his runs

Sargent,Feather,Huby,Jones,Ferres and Higgins just battered your props (which is why you were so tired at the end of the game)



Won 5 out of 6 and he's getting slated ?

Ever thought all his players were tired, which is why he brought nobody on

Did you go to the game (probably best to establish that before we go on)

another armchair Cas fan, to be expected.

Not getting slated at all, he should have brought Houghton on for Berrigan in the last 15.

Anyway, it's irrelevant, you've got the two points.

lets get 1 thing straight, both teams did not play their best, both made mistakes. Ref was poor but for BOTH sides.
"cas forwards wont last the season" is laughable
"cas will dirft towards end of season" cas are playing open expanded rugby league, Summer weather and hard grounds will only favour our game.
If sherwin gets injured we could be in trouble, yes.
Im not saying cas r a top 4 team, but just as good chance as any other team barring BIG 2.
I like Hull FC but looking forward to doing a treble over ya's

They did ok friday night against what many regard as one of the top packs in the league, even when we had two props earlier in the season we did ok against big packs like catalns.

Maybe at the end of the season that will be said of hull, only one way to find out.

No i wasnt, listen to it on the radio then watched the game after.

Armchair fan? just because i was unable to make an away match on a friday night? grow up kid.

Is that the same Wakefield who lost 4 of their first 6 games in 2008?

Facts arent allowed to spoil his wishful thinking.

Hull aren't good enought to finish in the top 4 this season. Our pack was missing Paul King and Danny Washbrook and was on the back of a 5 day turnaround having played against one of the biggest and most physical packs in the league last Sunday. Add in to the mix Lauakai and Crocker and the pack suddenly starts to look much stronger. cas definitely aren't good enough to finish top 4 but may just squeeze into the play offs with a back wind. You can convince yourself you've gone from the worst team in the league to one of the best in a few months but you haven't. Likewise, Hull haven't gone from 2nd worst to top 4 either.

OK, I was thinking of 2007

Diddums

Maybe not this year but 2010.......?????

All too true! Although I wouldn't have considered Hull the second worst team last year, injuries played their part and I think they'll grab 3rd/4th spot personally. Cas with a bit of luck to finish 7th, personally i'm going for 9th.

I think hull are perfectley capable of finnishing top 4 this year, and i have never said cas would finish in the top 4 ( i said preseason we would be between 10th and 8th, but on seeing how good are new signings are i have changed my mind and think we will finnish top 6). On friday our pack outmuscled yours, after only one more day to rest than yours, and both of the players you mentioned wouldnt have been playing friday unless your saying you had two forwards playing who deserved to be dropped after a 5 match unbeaten run? as for going from the worst to the best in a few months, we werent the worst team at the end of last season, we won 4 of our last 8 and the loses included leeds and saints and a narrow loss to bradford, since then we have brought in 10 new players most of which are playing supperbly and we have brent sherwin fit now, i surely dont have to tell a hull fan how important having your 7 fit is do i? Whats more we never had much of a problem scoring points last year (6th best in attack iirc, and we have so far scored more than any other tema this year) it was our defence that let us down in jones, evans, hudson etc we have signed some really good defenders, so whilst our defence isnt as good as we would like still it is vastly improved. When the ground firms up ur attack is only going to get better as we have an expansive playing style, you seem to base your entire argument on last year which is largely irrelevent now, catalans went from 10th to 3rd in a year, so its not as if 12th to 6th is that unrealistic is it?