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| Quote ="Trainman"I’m pretty sure quotes can be taken from any coaches pre match team talk and used to suit an agenda.
Not particularly good grammar but I’ll add one from the same teamtalk. ‘But do it legal’'"
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I am going for a Warrington win. Have had a soft spot for them since I saw them beat my team back in the late 40's. It was my first match at the Boulevard in Hull and their team included Brian Bevan, Harry Bath, Gerry Helme and Roy Francis among others. Roy Francis then joined Hull in 1949 as team captain,then became captain/coach and finally coach to provide a golden period in their history during the 50's when they reached 3 successive GF's,winning 2.
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I like Wane and what he's about.
Hope he goes out a winner.
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Quote ="Sal Paradise"Morley never actually connected he just ran over him - unlike Mick Cassidy in the same game
 So yes you have seen something equally as bad at Wigan
Did you forget that? I also remember a great try from Brad Godden
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If the ref had more bottle he would have sent him off and Cassidy wouldn't have needed to retaliate and in this game too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxM8gG3G7Dg&t=122s
7 mins in, 2 dirty players getting away with their best
He never got the bans he deserved in this country but the aussies banned him enough, they had the bottle.
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Quote ="Sal Paradise"Morley never actually connected he just ran over him - unlike Mick Cassidy in the same game
So yes you have seen something equally as bad at Wigan
Did you forget that? I also remember a great try from Brad Godden
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If the ref had more bottle he would have sent him off and Cassidy wouldn't have needed to retaliate and in this game too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxM8gG3G7Dg&t=122s
7 mins in, 2 dirty players getting away with their best
He never got the bans he deserved in this country but the aussies banned him enough, they had the bottle.
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Quote ="Mash Butty"If the ref had more bottle he would have sent him off and Cassidy wouldn't have needed to retaliate and in this game too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxM8gG3G7Dg&t=122s
7 mins in, 2 dirty players getting away with their best
He never got the bans he deserved in this country but the aussies banned him enough, they had the bottle.
By the way did you enjoy the result last night?'"
The better of two pretty poor sides won - a dismal game for what should be the highlight of the year.
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Quote ="Mash Butty"If the ref had more bottle he would have sent him off and Cassidy wouldn't have needed to retaliate and in this game too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxM8gG3G7Dg&t=122s
7 mins in, 2 dirty players getting away with their best
He never got the bans he deserved in this country but the aussies banned him enough, they had the bottle.
By the way did you enjoy the result last night?'"
The better of two pretty poor sides won - a dismal game for what should be the highlight of the year.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"You confuse my post - you suggested it wasn't possible to die from a single punch to the head even if it were Mike Tyson - that is simply untrue. Research supported by tangible evidence sugests your theory is wrong.'"
I absolutely didn't. You can die from a relatively minor blow, depending on your personal physiology, let alone a blow from Mike Tyson! What I said is this specific condition is not caused by a single blow (even one from the aforementioned Mr Tyson!) but is the result of repeated and continuous often minor impacts.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"The better of two pretty poor sides won - a dismal game for what should be the highlight of the year.
How many GF's is that?'"
We do need a GF winner that's not Saints, Wigan or Leeds to increase interest, IMO |
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I absolutely didn't. You can die from a relatively minor blow, depending on your personal physiology, let alone a blow from Mike Tyson! What I said is this specific condition is not caused by a single blow (even one from the aforementioned Mr Tyson!) but is the result of repeated and continuous often minor impacts.
As I said earlier, the research is well documented and very informative. Well worth a read.'"
Yes he has had a number of head injuries - perhaps Flowers' intervention was the final straw that broke the camel's back? |
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"We do need a GF winner that's not Saints, Wigan or Leeds to increase interest, IMO'"
We need GF Winners That are better than those teams then?
Not Handicap, drag down those teams to a level where the others can compete.
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"We do need a GF winner that's not Saints, Wigan or Leeds to increase interest, IMO'"
Do you really though? If Warrington won would it have made such a difference other than a pleasant change for some neutrals. Considering Wire have won a few CC’s and a couple of LLS as well as this being their 4th GF appearance all in the last decade I don’t think it’d have that much impact for them to win it especially considering they probably should’ve won at least one by now. |
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| Quote ="Jukesays"We need GF Winners That are better than those teams then?
Not Handicap, drag down those teams to a level where the others can compete.'"
Spot on, we’ve had the chance for new winners 3 years running now and between them Warrington and Cas have scored 6, 6 & 4 points in the last 3 finals (and Cas was at the death when the game was long gone). Just not good enough. |
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"The better of two pretty poor sides won - a dismal game for what should be the highlight of the year.
How many GF's is that?'"
Perhaps another argument that the league season should be shorter. Wire’s 37th game and Wigan’s 35th of the season. Possibly why we aren’t seeing great GF’s nowadays as teams are running on empty. You’ll recall Leeds in 2015 and they really had to drag and crawl their way over the finishing line in the last few games where they looked shattered and out on their feet. |
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Perhaps another argument that the league season should be shorter. Wire’s 37th game and Wigan’s 35th of the season. Possibly why we aren’t seeing great GF’s nowadays as teams are running on empty. You’ll recall Leeds in 2015 and they really had to drag and crawl their way over the finishing line in the last few games where they looked shattered and out on their feet.'"
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Perhaps another argument that the league season should be shorter. Wire’s 37th game and Wigan’s 35th of the season. Possibly why we aren’t seeing great GF’s nowadays as teams are running on empty. You’ll recall Leeds in 2015 and they really had to drag and crawl their way over the finishing line in the last few games where they looked shattered and out on their feet.'"
I agree with that, we have relatively small squads and play too many games.
By contrast the NRL Grand Final was Sydney & Melbourne’s 26th game of the season.
I think it’s also (along with other reasons) why we don’t perform that well internationally when we’re playing 30% more games than the NRL. |
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Quote ="Sal Paradise"Yes he has had a number of head injuries - perhaps Flowers' intervention was the final straw that broke the camel's back?'"
Certainly the final in game incident before he retired although, in fairness, I'm not sure that amounts to the same thing. I can't remember who put the last high shot on Goulding before he retired but I'm fairly sure he was in the 'last chance saloon' before that anyway. I'm not sure it would right to lay the blame for his career ending at the door of whoever was responsible for the final incident.
I think its worth remembering too that, in Hohaia's case, he didn't suffer the ill effects after the match but only months later after he'd returned to pre-season training.*
Edit:* Actually it was much later than that. According to Saints own records he never complained of the symptoms until after he'd played the next season.
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Quote ="Sal Paradise"Yes he has had a number of head injuries - perhaps Flowers' intervention was the final straw that broke the camel's back?'"
Certainly the final in game incident before he retired although, in fairness, I'm not sure that amounts to the same thing. I can't remember who put the last high shot on Goulding before he retired but I'm fairly sure he was in the 'last chance saloon' before that anyway. I'm not sure it would right to lay the blame for his career ending at the door of whoever was responsible for the final incident.
I think its worth remembering too that, in Hohaia's case, he didn't suffer the ill effects after the match but only months later after he'd returned to pre-season training.*
Edit:* Actually it was much later than that. According to Saints own records he never complained of the symptoms until after he'd played the next season.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Perhaps another argument that the league season should be shorter. Wire’s 37th game and Wigan’s 35th of the season. Possibly why we aren’t seeing great GF’s nowadays as teams are running on empty. You’ll recall Leeds in 2015 and they really had to drag and crawl their way over the finishing line in the last few games where they looked shattered and out on their feet.'"
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Perhaps another argument that the league season should be shorter. Wire’s 37th game and Wigan’s 35th of the season. Possibly why we aren’t seeing great GF’s nowadays as teams are running on empty. You’ll recall Leeds in 2015 and they really had to drag and crawl their way over the finishing line in the last few games where they looked shattered and out on their feet.'"
I think that's a very fair point. Unfortunately it comes down to simple economics. The NRL teams can afford to play fewer games due to the TV money they receive. I'm not sure that we'll ever have parity with them again. |
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I think you right
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| Quote ="Him"I agree with that, we have relatively small squads and play too many games.
By contrast the NRL Grand Final was Sydney & Melbourne’s 26th game of the season.
I think it’s also (along with other reasons) why we don’t perform that well internationally when we’re playing 30% more games than the NRL.'"
Agreed. But until club chairman realise that there are ways to make money that don't involve flogging the playing talent with stupid additional games that nobody wants, we're going to keep doing it. |
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Agreed. But until club chairman realise that there are ways to make money that don't involve flogging the playing talent with stupid additional games that nobody wants, we're going to keep doing it.'"
Sadly you are correct |
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"Sadly you are correct'"
It makes me wonder how we managed years ogo when players were part time and had jobs and played loads of mid week games I know the game is faster but is it any better for it |
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"Sadly you are correct'"
It makes me wonder how we managed years ogo when players were part time and had jobs and played loads of mid week games I know the game is faster but is it any better for it |
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| Quote ="Someday"It makes me wonder how we managed years ogo when players were part time and had jobs and played loads of mid week games I know the game is faster but is it any better for it'"
There was also little or no comprehension of warm-up/warm-down, rest, core strength or cardio. Hence a lot of players - pro & amateur - including myself, are fecked in their middle age. |
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| Quote ="tigertot"There was also little or no comprehension of warm-up/warm-down, rest, core strength or cardio. Hence a lot of players - pro & amateur - including myself, are fecked in their middle age.'"
Yes what you say is true but we do not know about the future of the players who play now they may be worse |
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| Quote ="tigertot"There was also little or no comprehension of warm-up/warm-down, rest, core strength or cardio. Hence a lot of players - pro & amateur - including myself, are fecked in their middle age.'"
Yes what you say is true but we do not know about the future of the players who play now they may be worse |
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So yes you have seen something equally as bad at Wigan 
