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| Maybe Italy should be playing in the European Cup.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Maybe Italy should be playing in the European Cup.'"
Now we're getting somewhere. Get the Italians in an EC with France, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. If they don't want to take it seriously and only select domestic players then relegate them down until they DO take it seriously. If these heritage players can make it for WC qualifiers then they can make it for EC matches too.
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| Last minute Kristian Keinhorst drop goal gives holders Germany 25-24 success over Serbia in the European Shield opener.
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| Glad to see some of the previous comments on this thread were way off the mark. Sets the competition up nicely.
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| Well done to the players and coaching staff. Sadly the quality of the heritage players ( Queensland Cup players and SL Academy) and some Union guys papers over the problems. The fact is the Domestic League is a joke and was supposed to start in February- 3 games played so far and new fixture list now in place. There is NO development happening except using Union players. Domestically Germany are behind the Czechs who have 2 leagues for example. A guy who has just started training around 20 players in a Uni near Nuremberg asked RLD for help and games. RLD have given him a couple of balls and no team would/could travel a maximum of 2 hours to play. They have contacted me and I will travel 3 hours and run a training day with some others and will also get a game on for them in some way. This should be the job of the Development Officer and others. The board is now mainly Union people. I dont see how this is good at all. Union people whilst they may like League, will always see Union as their first love and likely why so many of the Domestic League games have been cancelled. Maybe people should not just look at Internationals but have some information and knowledge on things behind the scenes before making knocking others who have far more understanding of the situation
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| Calm down.
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| ?? Just telling you how it is so I dont need to chill thanks
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| I understand you're passionate about the game in Germany and it sounds like you're doing some great work, but that'd no excuse to fire off at someone on an internet message board.
By the way, these are the comments I'm glad were wide of the mark;
Quote ="deluded pom?"Germany are way out of their depth in that comp. Off the field as well as on it.'"
Quote ="The Lucky Black Cat"Germany will do well to even get to Serbia and Russia in 2013 let alone get close to beating them. And they have less than 6 months as the first games are in May!'"
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| Quote ="Catalancs"I understand you're passionate about the game in Germany and it sounds like you're doing some great work, but that'd no excuse to fire off at someone on an internet message board.
By the way, these are the comments I'm glad were wide of the mark;
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My comment was made before the Germans drafted in Aussie heritage players. I was right about the other half of my forecast if LBC is to be believed.
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| Good to see great strides being made in Serbia. June 9th is the next game, against Italy in Belgrade.
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| I thought the Germans were playing Russia this weekend?
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| They are, I think.
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| Germany lost 26-32. Jimmy Keinhorst grabbed 3 for the Germans
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| Good to see close, competitive games in this tournament. Although I know you don't like the current Germany administration TLBC, it does seem like they have been able to make some advances on the field at least. I think most expected Germany would be blown away in their matches.
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| Problem for Germany is the Heritage players like Keinhorst, Seibold, Danzey are the spine (1,6,9) and Germany rely so much on them. Off the field things are poor and it will show likely in the away games where Germany will miss the Spine. Having had the Domestic comp rescheduled atleast twice this year and only so far just 3 games taking place including a training weekend then the German players are missing out on valuable education and game time. The biggest problem for Germany is the structure of the board. The President is a yound lad (24 years old) who lives in London most of the time. The Development Officer has NO clubs developed and just relies on bringing in Union players like Jens Schmidt and co. The board has only a couple of people who actually do anything and most are still active in Union including the Development officer. This is for me a major concern. Germany are way behind Czechs, Malta, Norway domestically but because they can call on quality heritage players who pay their own way even from Australia then the National team is very strong. But in reality it papers over the cracks. The sad thing is there are some top people who do many great things like Bene Rehm for example who gives everything and managed to stop the German RU president trying to move the game elsewhere. Its just a shame that he is not supported by the members of the board. The players deserve much praise and will have learnt alot this past 2 weeks especially regarding fitness and the big differences between League and Union
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| Quote ="deluded pom?"Now we're getting somewhere. Get the Italians in an EC with France, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. If they don't want to take it seriously and only select domestic players then relegate them down until they DO take it seriously. If these heritage players can make it for WC qualifiers then they can make it for EC matches too.'"
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| Serbia 24 - 18 Italy
Ignoring the background and just taking this as a tournament alone, this must be one of the best contested international series' so far for a long time? 1pt, 6pt and 6pt victories? Brilliant.
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| Ooh, now you're in for it
Saw that result yesterday and couldn't believe it. Italy were supposed to walk this tournament with Germany light years behind the other countries. Love rugby league.
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| [url=http://www.rlef.eu.com/european_shield/report?RLE00000301Irresistible Italy rout Germany[/url
"A few people questioned whether Germany could play at this level and said we’d lose by blow-out scores in every match. Yes, this was a big score, but we’ve won one and were competitive with Russia so overall I’m pretty happy with the way 2012 went and looking forward to getting back into the competition next year."
- Germany coach Dan Stocks
Italy and Serbia both travel to Russia in September to complete the first half of the biennial competition
[url=http://www.rlef.eu.com/other/report?RLE00000405Under 18s a much tighter contest[/url
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| Russia 21 - 20 Serbia
with Serbia missing out on a penalty and fumbling a try scoring chance towards the end.
Russia top at halfway with 3 wins, 2 at home.
Italy second thanks to a rout over Germany despite 2 losses away.
Serbia 3rd with a win over Italy and two 1 point losses to Russia and Germany away from home.
Germany, after narrowly beating Serbia have fallen back slightly with a big loss against Italy putting them last place for now. May have a tough next year traveling to Russia and Serbia.
Interesting comp from what I can gather from the RLEF site
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