Have you been drinking?


The champions of Europe, against the Champions of Australia/NZ playing in the last game of the last day of MM. Its not that hard to understand what he is trying to say!

So you play everybody home and away , so an even number of games , MM game is the odd match , when does the team that plays the WCC match play their odd game , and who do they play it against ?

I despair , I really do

So they miss out on a game then ?

Sit down and work it out , take your socks off if you have to

Ever heard of "the Bye"

Starbug, Brenio is saying they would miss out on a SL match BUT they would play their WCC match at MM. They could then make up their match in hand later in the season.

So the SL Champions get a ' bye ' but the rest don't ?

Even teams , even games , works

Even teams , uneven games , works if you have a MM type event

Uneven teams , even games , works with a ' bye '

Uneven teams , uneven games , doesn't work

So who would they play ?

A league with an uneven number of teams is played on a round robin basis, same as with leagues with an even number of teams.
Only difference is that on any given weekend, ONE team gets a SINGLE rest weekend when the other teams are playing.
Not getting what you find wrong about all this.

Who would they play ?

ALL the other clubs already have two games against everybody else plus the MM game , it doesn't work

They would play against the OTHER WCC top team at MM and complete the remainder of the fixture list during the season.

So they would play .... same as every year .... EVERYONE eventually.

So one team plays a game more than everybody else ?

Sit down with a calculator and a piece of paper and work it out

Yee gods

Poor effort bug

I don't need a calculator. I understand. I fail to see why you don't.

Yes, one team plays a game more than everyone else. Whichever SL team plays in the WCC match.

ONE extra match for the best team in SL. Big deal! They get the extra revenue and they just rotate their players a bit more during the course of the season.

Work it out , it doesn't work , bloody hell it's basic maths

No you don't , the team that plays the WCC gets one game less , or whoever they play as the ' extra ' game gets one game more

Thick people

Starbug, indeed it IS basic maths. Stop for a second and entertain the slight possibility that you could be wrong this time. Because with respect, you ARE.

A cursory recheck of the numbers reveals that NOBODY plays an extra match. So I was briefly wrong in assuming you were correct that one team played an extra match. Now I'm back again in the right.

1. The uneven teams in SL play each other on a round robin basis. On any playing weekend, one team (or an odd number of teams) will have a rest weekend. Thus the fixtures are completed with (including MM) ALL teams playing 2 matches against each other.

2. The uneven number of SL teams at MM are boosted by the OTHER WCC team to make an EVEN number of teams. These teams then play each other.

I can't make it any simpler for you Starbug.

HOWEVER .. it is an entertaining thread for 2 reasons.

1. I am right

2. you are wrong.

3. You are getting annoyed. (It's not cos it's you. I'd laugh if it was anyone)

So you are suggesting that the MM games don't count point wise to the Championship ?

Oo your desperateness to be right tripped me up there.

I can't recall how MM works cos i don't follow SL any more. BUt I'M STILL RIGHT

1. If MM matches are not friendlies but count towards the usual 2 SL fixtures each, then the SL champs play one extra game (the WCC one)

2. If the MM matches are friendlies and do not count towards the SL table, then NOBODY plays an extra game.

Ok , 15 teams , everybody plays home and away , so 28 games worth 56 points

14 teams play at MM for points , so 7 teams get another 2 points each

1 team plays at MM for zero points as they are playing the NRL champions

So club X then has to play another game to be able to attain the same number of points as the other 14 teams

Team X cannot play another game because whoever they play then has played 30 games as they already play home and away 28 , and have also already played at MM

Is that clear enough ?

Wow!

Starbug, put the shovel down!

Not another who didn't pay attention at junior school ?

So, what's being said here is, SL to be expanded to 15 teams?
4 games on the saturday, 3 games on the sunday.
4 games on the sunday if the SL Champions play their WCC match last.
And, the SL Champions get a bye the first week? Then all the other teams have a bye for alternate weeks?
Or is now MM being proposed by you lot not to be the first week, but to be the second?
You are all going in circles.

Starbug
Do you agree that in a comp that has an uneven amount of teams in it, that every week a different team will take it in turn to have their bye week?
So if you do agree then how come you find it hard to envision that the bye week during the MM could fall to the reigning champions of SL thus enabling them to play in the WWC at the MM.

Senario:
SL week 1
Wigan v Leeds
Leeds v St's
Cas v Bradford
Wakefield v Warrington
Salford v Hudds
Hull FC v Quins
Hull KR v Catalans
Widnes BYE

Week 2 (MM)
St's v Widnes
Bradford v Leeds
Wakefield v Cas
Warrington v Hudds
Hull FC v Hull KR
Quins v Catalan
Salford v Crusaders
Wigan BYE (but will play NRL Champs for WWC as final game of MM)

Week 3
St's Bye

Week 4
Cas BYE

and so on

15 teams equals no MM , simple

For what reason?