All I did was reverse your own argument on yourself. But I'm not calling you a bad person, every does/says stupid stuff.

Fairplay, at least you are not sticking with your judgement.

Some Leeds fans need to consider what they would think if Micky Mac or especially Sam Tomkins had done this during his time at Wigan. Like you say, many are defending him. They didn't defend Tomkins for his actions ay Wembley.

Pretty much my view too.

I'd also add (though it probably takes the discussion into more of an abstract one), and this is a genuine question to people on here - what would your view be if a player called another player "an effing woman"?

Sorry but you really are a sad, one eyed moron.
Instead of diving in and demanding a player's head on a plate (again) how about waiting to see what happens, what the RFL, the club and the player has to say?

The lynch mob mentality of many in this country right now is frightening.

Perhaps they aren't condemning Zak as they don't agree with the idiot with an obvious anti-Leeds bias who has decided he knows who was being addressed by the comment and it's intent. It's a troll who hates Leeds using this as a stick to try beat them with. Pretty sick if you ask me! Having seen it's past posts though it doesn't surprise me.

Resorting to insults now? I thought I was the only bad guy

Does anybody have any audio to go with the clip to support the many potentially libelous accusations that have been published, un-moderated on here?

Why is everyone so certain they know what he said? Because of what they think they see?

Has anybody ever heard of the McGurk effect?

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If the potentially libelous allegations contained in this thread are proven to be true after proper investigation I hope the RFL take severe action. However, at the moment, I see a lot of indignant people jumping to massive conclusions and making fools of themselves.

As I said, I watched it today, it looks and sounds to me like he says fanny to monaghan

Don't know whether you're a bad guy, probably not, but you're clearly very bitter, blinkered and not very bright.

In other words nothing is ever said. Players will breathe and exhale but nothing else. They will not engage in conversation on the field in fear of saying something derogatory. What a load of bollax. Sorry, never thought of those with no testicles. Shame on me.

Could very easily be the case.

Will the Wiganer on a witch-hunt publishing potentially libelous accusations acknowledge that could be the case or is he certain he knows what Zak said and who he said it to?

Exactly what I'm getting at.

Rugby players (and most blokes in general) give each other grief, whether it be light hearted banter or in the heat of the action in sports - all sorts of 'descriptive' terms are used, yet we only get the BS outrage when it's certain insults, and it's only the ones that are seen as being 'inclusive'... I suppose all those who are outraged have never called someone fat, ugly, ginger, 4 eyed, , inbred etc etc etc....

I'm not bitter, I have nothing against Zac in general and although Leeds are not my favourite team I would say the same if it was Marc Sneyd, Kevin Brown or Travis Burns. Not very bright? I have a first class honours degree... Does that count

I think you are actually showing more ignorance here than anyone using the term fag! The majority of the gay community would be more offended that you think they'd be that precious over a rugby player calling someone a fag in the heat of the game.

Not in court.

There is no clear evidence that anything has happened. (Who Hardaker was addressing, the words he used.)

If anything untoward was said, then it's lucky that there are people around to go through video tapes frame by frame and froth on the internet to ensure something unsavoury that would never have been noticed can receive as much exposure as possible. Which achieves what, exactly?

Hopefully in the future, all Rugby League players will be miked up and broadcast on separate feeds just so you can concentrate on what's said between them rather than how they play.

Perhaps we could extend that coverage to the stand. In which case Section 4 of the Public Order Act is the one you want to check out, given your previous.

Before the camera went on him he said "your decisions are a disgrace Mr Child. I need a......" That is when it cut to him and he said F...ing Fag........


If he is guilty he should be given a hefty punishment. He definitely said it but depends who to.

So you recognise who is saying what off Camera? Very talented.

Why do you think he said that? Do you have audio of him?


"Definately"? Why so definate?

A degree in what, hypocrisy?

You can hear him on the video now go climb up his and jog on. It's clear as day he says it.

Case closed then, let's hang him.

You don't have to be a professional lip reader to see it. He says "you f....ing fag" anyone who doesn't see this is blind or from Leeds.

Voice of reason.

The Leeds mafia are out in force I see and have managed to deflect attention from Hardaker and Peacock onto a poster who's apparently thick, hypocritical and has a vendetta.

Back on topic(ish), at best this is an unacceptable level of abuse aimed at the referee by Jamie Peacock. At worst this is a case of two Leeds a Rhinos players aiming homophobic abuse at the referee, alegedly.

In either case it's not acceptable!

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=470664&tsmp=1401563217&start=100 Last comment in that page, yep he really went there.

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=470664&tsmp=1401563217&start=100 Last comment in that page, yep he really went there.

Anyhow it will all come out in the wash