But they don’t earn that money by beating any benchmarks set by us, and we don’t earn money by beating benchmarks set by them.

We are two different games. We don’t exist only in relation to RU, they aren’t the right to our left. We don’t need to measure the success or failure of what we are doing in relation to them. The success or failure of our World Cup should be judged on its own merits. If it makes money, if people enjoy it. It is a success and we build on that. Our benchmark is the RLWC in 2008, not the RU WC in 2011 or 2015.

Believe me, I appreciate the quality of some of the work done at the IRB and RFU. For some reason, at some time, everyone in RL seems to have forgotten the game exists at a professional level to bring in money. This is why I can never understand why someone would be against the expansion of club world challenge, or when RL fans moan about the Magic Weekend, or play-offs or cost of tickets (Which if anything are too low).[ They seem to want a fully pro game but someone else to pay for it. And yes FTA is integral to us, as a game and I expect that we will see the BBC as primary broadcaster for the WC and I think an expanded World Club Challenge on FTA every year, would be the biggest boost possible for the game in this country. But the success or failure of that isn’t in relation to RU>

Why? What will that achieve for me?

I want the RLWC to be a success, I want to see it, I want to see it next time as well so I don’t mind contributing to the cost of it. I hope they do make money off my money, I hope it is put back in to the game. The cost of the tickets aren’t onerous they are pretty fair, Im happy to pay full price.

This is just boring now, people who come on these pages without a single positive thing to say about the game. It's not about people 'like me' not wanting to hear anything negative said about RL because yes we know it's not perfect, but this constant putting down of the sport without a positive balance is tedious.

When people say wait for discounted tickets are they wanting tickets for free? PNG v France is £10 for adults. That is very cheap already. Also if you can get to both games at Craven Park they offer buy one get one half price so PNG v France and PNG v Samoa is £15.
Absolute bargain! To go and watch any SL club costs more than that.

Agree with this, tickets are cheap enough. No need to reduce prices.

Ticket sales will be so so.
English fans do not support International Games that well, for a whole different set of reasons neither do Australian Fans.

Yeah, you're right, we should pack in trying to improve the sport and just give up now. I'll fetch the cyanide pills.

This is correct.

World Cup tickets will have to be offered up for sale again at discounted prices (or even given away) or stadia will be embarrassingly half-empty or more throughout the tournament.

No, we should work hard at improving the sport, just with better people in charge, with a better grip on the reality of what's wrong, what's right, and how to move forward. For that matter, just the ability to THINK would be a start.

Correct. I also predict that you'll now be chastised as 'talking the game down'. Reality is not allowed on these forums. It would imply that something could be done to make things better, but the people who will now criticize you think the game is doing just fine and don't want to hear you. Frogs in slow-heating pan of water.

As I said before...This is just boring now, people who come on these pages without a single positive thing to say about the game. It's not about people 'like me' not wanting to hear anything negative said about RL because yes we know it's not perfect, but this constant putting down of the sport without a positive balance is tedious.

It's not that there aren't issues, there are, but quite why some continue to follow the game with NOTHING positive to say about it baffles me. This is why the 'moaners' are greeted with apathy, some valid points sometimes but it gets boring.

It isn’t reality, if it was reality you would be able to prove it. But you cant prove it because it hasn’t happened and you have no evidence to base your statement on. You don’t know whether the WC will be well attended, poorly attended or something in between. You cant possibly know this because it hasn’t happened and we are 8 months away from it happening. Between now and then every single ticket could be sold. Or none could.

You are, quite obviously, quite clearly, just whining. Again.

PS:For future reference, we get it. You don’t like Nigel Wood, you don’t care what he does or what he achieves you want him out. We understand that. You don’t need to try and twist every topic, to search for anything that could possibly be construed as not quite meeting expectations to reiterate it.

You hope.

I'm pretty sure you legitimately have something wrong with you.

Are people really that pessimistic that they're talking down the World Cup before it's even happened?!

Some people seem to find it more pleasurable to succeed in failing than failing to succeed. That's just sad.

its the duty of every rugby league fan to watch at least one world cup game that doesnt involve a home nation.

I'll be watching the game at the lsv which will involve no home nation team. After that i'll probably be watching all the other games on tv because i know how important tv viewing figure are to the rfl & the VT and i just want to do my bit for the good of the game.

I seem to remember that some people thought that the Olympics were going to be rubbish last year, even in the last few months leading up to it.




It's sad but true unfortunately. But you get people, like RLBandit etc, who like to claim anyone who talks them down must have their head buried in the sand and can't see the light like they do. If you praise one thing about RL they immediately label you as an RFL lover who thinks that EVERYTHING is perfect and great about RL in England.

As i've said before their is nothing wrong with criticism (pessimism even) if it's constructive, something along the lines of...........[i''it's a decent start regarding ticket sales, but they need to make sure they keep it up''.[/i
Not just [i''it's s**t and the whole thing is going to be rubbish''[/i.

Can you spot the difference you glass half empty lads??? That you can't even tell why people don't really like you means your judgment is questionable in the first place.......but if it makes you feel superior/better/smarter (which is what it's really all about with you guys deep down) then keep convincing yourself that the reason people don't like you is because we are [i'so jealous that you're ahead of the crowd and tougher to impress'.[/i

Might try and get to Craven Park for a game. I'll be a student again by then though so may struggle on the pennies!

It's £15 for two games...

In fact if you're a student you might get concession, which would mean £7.50 for two games.

But how can I afford that when I'm buying books to study...

Yeah right!

Sure ill scrape something together. Saving for Cardiff, Wembley, KC and Old Trafford so if there's enough by the way-side, I'll hit Craven Park for a couple as well.

Comparing the largest sporting even on the planet to RLWC 2013 isn't going to end well......I'd quit now if I were you.

Hit. Nail. On. Head.

Superb!

Just been reading the last few pages, lets just call the whole thing off. Seriously, some people need to look back at the things they have written and realise how pathetic they are. The RLWC is a tremendous opportunity for the greatest game here in Britain. Stop trying to belittle it and get behind the sport which I am sure (despite the facade) you love.