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| Quote ="rollin thunder"As a posed to your moniker, “troll”
Petty pointless post.'"
So I'm a troll because you don't agree - true snowflake mentality.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"As we have seen in recent years letting people decide by polls /democracy does not work, somethings are better left to people who no more about how to run the game/clubs. pretty sure if there was a national poll to bring back hanging, it would win, but does not make it the right thing to do does it. After all the Naziz were elected, people buy Coldplay and Justin Bieber records. and 90% of northern people don't like change.'"
What an arrogant individual you are, truly vile but typical of the poly technic generation.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Love you too Vastman. Never change.'"
No reply because you were wrong and you knew it. No i'll never stop saying it how it is, your oversensitivity is not my problem.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Yes. Definitely was and still is really. Just not used publivally anymore.'"
It was Dreadnowt's I believe not dreadnoughts as in the ships - a play on words I believe. There is a famous picture with the players holding a banner, it says Dreadnowts but your eyes trick you into seeing Dreadnoughts for some reason.
Thats not to say we haven't been called Dreadnoughts at some point as we probably have.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Been working well for Cas Tigers for quite some time. This photo was taken at Wembley in 1969:-
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Yeah I thought the Cas one had some history to it and tbf it matches the colours and Tigers are always cool. Rhino's does none of that for me.
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| Quote ="vastman"It was Dreadnowt's I believe not dreadnoughts as in the ships - a play on words I believe. There is a famous picture with the players holding a banner, it says Dreadnowts but your eyes trick you into seeing Dreadnoughts for some reason.
Thats not to say we haven't been called Dreadnoughts at some point as we probably have.'"
I've always thought it was Dreadnoughts, if you look at my avatar it's a photo that hangs in The Ale House in Wakefield with Dreadnowts on it though so you may be correct.
It states "Dreadnowts Comin."
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| Quote ="Gianttown"Big G is also the best mascot
UP THE GIANTS <3'"
TBF after Barracudas it's not bad, its not the worst imo.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"I've always thought it was Dreadnoughts, if you look at my avatar it's a photo that hangs in The Ale House in Wakefield with Dreadnowts on it though so you may be correct.
It states "Dreadnowts Comin."'"
I've seen both but I think Dreadnowts came first but I'm not that old to be certain. Also it's Dreadnowts on your avatar
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| Quote ="vastman"I've seen both but I think Dreadnowts came first but I'm not that old to be certain. Also it's Dreadnowts on your avatar
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Typo Vasty lol
The photo is of the 1908-09 "cup" winners from what I remember, I'll get a proper photo next time I'm in for an old rosie!
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| Quote ="vastman"I've seen both but I think Dreadnowts came first but I'm not that old to be certain. Also it's Dreadnowts on your avatar
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My username now looks a little silly doesn't it
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"My username now looks a little silly doesn't it
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I think there both valid your safe enough
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| Quote ="vastman"I think there both valid your safe enough
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Either way it's much better than "The Wildcats"
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| You've got it the wrong way around Vasty.
It was Dreadnoughts like the ship. The play on words was the other way around.
The picture on Dreadnoughts avatar is a hand written banner I assume to make a pun on the name.
It's shown in the JC Lindsey Wakefield Trinity history book in the 1960s with the correct spelling underneath.
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| Quote ="EastHullUTR"Agree with the original post, glad my club has never bothered with silly animal names. Perhaps it works for some clubs but I'm sure if a poll of fans were done the majority would be in favour of going back to traditional names.'"
Yes, definitely good to see that the Robins haven't indulged in silly animal nicknames.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You've got it the wrong way around Vasty.
It was Dreadnoughts like the ship. The play on words was the other way around.
The picture on Dreadnoughts avatar is a hand written banner I assume to make a pun on the name.
It's shown in the JC Lindsey Wakefield Trinity history book in the 1960s with the correct spelling underneath.'"
No it was Dreadnowt's first based on Dreadnought as told to me - that banner was for the cup and the players came up with it themselves - the pun caught on and became the more recognisable Dreadnaught's as used by the club and press. If you can be certain otherwise you are either far older than I imagine or you didn't know Mr Lilley the ancient old fan and fount of knowledge who told me
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| Quote ="vastman"No reply because you were wrong and you knew it. No i'll never stop saying it how it is, your oversensitivity is not my problem.'"
You've got a very strange outlook on oversensitivity old boy. I'm not the one who seems obsessed about winning arguments and insulting strangers on the internet.
Try taking a more open and positive outlook on life. You never know, you might like it.
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| Quote ="vastman"What a stupid reply - one Wildcats is no more stupid than Rhino's, in fact slightly better, give it a rest.
Secondly and as ever you are utterly clueless yet you speak with an arrogance way beyond your knowledge. Since turning back to Trinity it has been met by universal acclaim across the district. Merchandise sales have roughly doubled or so I'm told though I only need to look to see it.'"
With regards to the rebrand back to Trinity, I’d say it’s a fair point to say that a lot more time, effort, thought and planning was put into that recent rebrand than when you rebranded to the Wildcats. That’s the key part of any branding regardless of whether you go for an animal name of a traditional name.
And for all this talk of the animal names being silly, the way people are going on you’d think the names in question were The Poodles, The Honey Badgers, The Ladybirds and The Tortoises....not Rhinos, Bulls, Lions and Tigers which give off connotations such as strength, power and speed which go well in connection with sport especially ours.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"With regards to the rebrand back to Trinity, I’d say it’s a fair point to say that a lot more time, effort, thought and planning was put into that recent rebrand than when you rebranded to the Wildcats. That’s the key part of any branding regardless of whether you go for an animal name of a traditional name.
And for all this talk of the animal names being silly, the way people are going on you’d think the names in question were The Poodles, The Honey Badgers, The Ladybirds and The Tortoises....not Rhinos, Bulls, Lions and Tigers which give off connotations such as strength, power and speed which go well in connection with sport especially ours.'"
I agree. It's no different to having Lions, Stags and Unicorns on country coat of arms.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I agree. It's no different to having Lions, Stags and Unicorns on country coat of arms.'"
I dont remember any Rhinos on the Leeds badge of old ?
Lions have had their place on the English "crest" for several hundreds of years.
Having said that , it's up to each club to maximise it's own potential, accross all revenue streams and if having an animal on your clubs badge helps, then so be it.
I do like a proper name though
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I dont remember any Rhinos on the Leeds badge of old ?'"
No they wasn’t but so what? Tradition is good and all but also moving with the times is pretty important too. It was tradition for Hull and Saints to play at The Boulevard and Knowsley Road, but they moved with the times and moved on.
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What constitutes a “proper name”, that it’s old? People say they’re glad they don’t have an animal name.As an atheist I’m glad and wouldn’t be interested in having a name that came from the church and having a stylised flower for a crest.
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| Quote ="inside man"Dreadnowts.'"
Knownowts, more like
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"No they wasn’t but so what? Tradition is good and all but also moving with the times is pretty important too. It was tradition for Hull and Saints to play at The Boulevard and Knowsley Road, but they moved with the times and moved on.
What constitutes a “proper name”, that it’s old? People say they’re glad they don’t have an animal name.As an atheist I’m glad and wouldn’t be interested in having a name that came from the church and having a stylised flower for a crest.'"
You cant change where you come from and looking into the history of where "Trinitiy" came from always causes a wry smile.
I cant imagine too many religious organisations wanting to set up a RL side to increase membership these days.
Equally I'm not sure it worked in 1873 either but, at least the club is still going, which is a miracle in itself
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"And for all this talk of the animal names being silly, the way people are going on you’d think the names in question were The Poodles, The Honey Badgers, The Ladybirds and The Tortoises....'"
The Mansfield Honey Badgers take offence to this remark. I played American Football at university, some of the nicknames in Britain are incredibly bad; Bangor Muddogs, Bath Killer Bees, King's College Regents, Manchester Tyrants.
The nicknames in Rugby League aren't horrific and if a club can use it to reach another audience and attract more fans then just go for it.
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| When Wakey were Wakefield Trinity Wildcats there were quite a few people on this thread who defended their moniker and how it brought young fans to appeal to the club if I remember correctly. There seems to be quite a few Wakey fans with a change of heart since the club dropped the Wildcats moniker.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"When Wakey were Wakefield Trinity Wildcats there were quite a few people on this thread who defended their moniker and how it brought young fans to appeal to the club if I remember correctly. There seems to be quite a few Wakey fans with a change of heart since the club dropped the Wildcats moniker.'"
Can't speak for those people and tbh I only remember there being just the odd person that liked it, generally for the idea that kids relate. I think most people thought firstly, it's a bit of a lame animal we got, plus being too much of a mouth full, as well as not being one thing or the other, are we Wakefield Wildcats, or Wakefield Trinity, or Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, you need to nail down one name imo. I know in the past especially say pre- 2010 you used to get a few people that bought into the kids like it mindset but that also went with the kids loving Daddycool the mascot, which we always could've kept even losing the Wildcats name.
There was a definite swell over the years to rebrand from all age groups. We needed a change of identity to move forward, a clean slate if you will, that came along with the club being better run both on and off the field and basically try to get rid of that old image. So for me the vast majority have enjoyed the rebrand and imo Mr Carter will say it's been the correct decision just going off the year on year huge improvements in merchandise we've sold and ateotd you can't argue with that. it just looks a far more polished cooler emblem, that all age groups can get behind IMO.
For me it's about what works for that individual team. Has been mentioned Bulls, Rhino's & Tigers have all worked for them and everyone's bought into that over the years. I think with the first two it helps because they've football teams in the City to differentiate from. But others like the 2 Hull Clubs and Trinity it hasn't. Salford a few years ago tried to try something new, going from being the reds to linking them in with Man United and the Red Devils. I don't know how their fans felt about it at the time but from my perspective, it felt the owner was just jumping onto an idea hoping it'd work.
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