And they're off

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You think SKY would be content to invest the same amount of money in the game when they're getting only half the matches? Do me a favour!

And each club would have 7 home games a season. Club chairmen already complain about not utilising their grounds enough with the current set up.

This is true,but what a stink there would be.

I can just imagine the hetheringtons on the phone to lenighan...Ian,Ian have you seen what they've done,we cant have this,its time we took back control of the game from the RFL.

Nothing stopping them having Rihanna concerts to make up the difference. People need to wake up. Rugby League is a fantastic sport, but there are still too many flat cappers knocking about who want the old status quos to be preserved. Move with the times and improve the competition. If we stumble on blindly like we are it'll just keep getting pushed to the back and end up like handball or british basketball.

Woah there cowboy , I was just explaining the OP s plan , not my opinion , just what he was proposing

I'm fairly sure the club chairmen would happily take an extra million guaranteed than have to play more games , Well those that were in this Super Duper League

10 team SL with Promo/Relegation

Wigan
Warrington
Leeds
Saints
Bradford
Huddersfield
Hull FC
Hull KR
Castleford
Catalan

Swap Bradford for London and I'd go with that (with the structure I proposed).

I've got an idea.

14 teams, promotion and relegation.

Even if my side got relegated by finishing last (like we didn't in 2006), I'd love that idea.

Looking back franchising has helped us a lot whether we like it or not. We were a yo-yo club but the franchise system allowed us to bring through young players without the risk of being relegated and where are we now? 6 points off the top of the table and despite some awful results we're in the mix. I'd stick with the way it is, although I'll never understand what the Quins and Crusaders bring to the league, but that's a different story.

We could all get biased to our own teams and say swap Widnes for Huddersfield.Keep as 14 clubs as it gives other teams a chance to build.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

The whole idea at the start of this topic has had me sat shaking my head in disbelief at such a blinkered, pathetic view.

Nobody in this country would take an 8 team league seriously... it's hard enough with 14 trying to convince people to take it seriously as most are used to seeing 20+ teams in a league as in football.

8 teams... no thank you... 14... just right. Leave it alone... it doesn't need changing again.

Yes but most other competitions like football have a bigger league underneath them . we have smaller competitions holding up the biggest , our pyramid is upside down

I think I missed the obvious - let's have a 2 team Premiership Man U and Chelsea with guest appearances from Liverpool, City, Arsenal and Spurs because no one else stands a chance of winning and bring bog all to the game.

Because they won promotion.

Have never been bottom.

Have an average gate of 6,000.

Produce championship winning Academy teams.

Produced more SL players than most including three of our best in Brough, Ellis and Westwood.

Have a new ant ambitious BOD with the money to back them up.

Have a first class heritage.

Play RL in the only city in the UK without a Football team.

Are 4 month away from a potential new stadium.

Against - the stadium issue which I accept but you have happily included a club with similar issues.

I mean it always used to be enough to warrant a place, your team managed it for the first 10 years in SL but hey now your there you kick the ladder away in true SL style. Would you like me to make you look any sillier?

It's not about numbers particularly its about the quality of the matches and the standard of the clubs. At the moment we embarass the sport by having clubs like Wakefield, Quins and Crusaders as they bring nothing but empty stands and poor performances.

A lot of those on here who don't want a reduction will no doubt have been those trying to say Super League wasn't a good idea and that summer rugby wouldn't catch on. We need to put club loyalty aside for the sake of the sport and focus on improving the competition. Super League is at an alltime low currently and there is only one way that can go as the cap can't go up because millions are spent propping up the five or six rubbish clubs I want left out. Give the sky money to the proper clubs and let them provide a quality competition.

Wakefield have won six games including beating Hull, I can only assume there was no quality in any of that - you're an idiot and the reason so few real fans bother with the VT.

People like you spouting the rubbish you do has ruined a game I loved, a game based on who won how many games, the only way any sport should be based on IMO.I really wish you'd take your elitist poison elsewhere.

Nothing stopping Wakefield have the time of their lives in a promotion based first past the post system in the Non-Super League is there?

You talk about RL being ruined? It was headed for the scrapheap and fast before Sky got involved.

I have no problem with that if P&R existed and we finished bottom - but that's not what you're on about is it. You just want to jettison clubs who currently don't meat your expectations. Not so long ago this would have included Warrington and Hudds but you're not bright enough to see that.

So what happens in the Super 8's when say Bradford and Hull for instance continually finish bottom, does it become a Super 6!

What loons like you don't get is that there has to be a bottom set of clubs like there is in the NRL. The only difference is that the teams change position more often but as the loss of P&R really kicks in that will change. Get a grip.

We don't have enough quality players to sustain so many teams. It leads to watered down competition and it is a vicious circle as the few elite players are not tested in a high intensity environment week in week out.

You mean Championship 1 ?

So why do teams at the top lose to teams at the bottom, your argument gets more ludicrous by the post. Unless there are teams being thrashed by 50 points every game then there is competition. The winning points margin in SL is about the same as the NRL. What you clearly can't seem to grasp (because and I know it's not PC your a bit thick) is that there will always be top teams and bottom teams. That's how leagues work, or are you suggesting every team must win exactly the same number of games by the same margin to be competitive - now think about it.

Quins were top of the League at the start of the season whilst Wakefield finished top 6 and reached a CCup final a few seasons ago. In 2009 Wakefield finished 5th and Warrington finished 10th - should we have binned Warrington who were clearly letting the side down - you don't have to answer that as I'm afraid it's beyond you and it's unfair to pick on you.

Now stop making a fool of yourself.

I think 12 is a pretty good number really. 14 doesn't keep the second flight strong enough IMO and 8 is just too few, like people have said people are used to watching football with 20+ teams in each league.

So I would go for a 12 team league. I don't want to say I would prefer P&R because we are not going to get it for a good few years anyway. I think the franchise system is helping clubs develop both in and out of super league.

I would go back to the top 5 play-off...
Relegation if you go into administration...

Wigan
Warrington
Leeds
Hull FC
St Helens
Catalans
Hudds
Widnes
Bradford
Hull KR
Quins
Salford

I reckon the second tier needs a criteria as well though but only having 12 teams in super league would make it much more competative. 6 of those teams have been in super league within the last decade and the other 3 have potential to make the step up. Not sure which other teams could be in this league but I think it should be decided based on the potential for super league.

Castleford
Wakey
Crusaders
Barrow
Halifax
Leigh
Sheffield
Toulouse
Featherstone
.....

Wakefield are gone either way. Stay the same as you are cut for Widnes, change to my proposed system and you are cut.

It's too late for Wakefield, people should have thought about stadiums, crowds, youth facilities etc years ago.

You know all this as fact do yo