my opinion is no club should do it. including mine. the cap is the cap. player gets injured then tough.

The de-registering of a player only means that he can't play for the club. The player is still contracted to the club and the club still hold the registration.

come on its not like he couldn't earn a wage else where, makes me laugh when I here commentators say well they have a mortgage to pay when it comes to relegation battle well this is the same, life happens deal with it

https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... fl-confirm The Rugby Football League has confirmed it has discretion to grant salary cap relief to Castleford.

https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... fl-confirm The Rugby Football League has confirmed it has discretion to grant salary cap relief to Castleford.

We'll, now they can't complain about Wigan in 06

Anyhow, this is why you have a squad isn't it? I wonder if Powell is worried his other halfback options aren't up to it.

“ Hodgson rule” from Australia? Normally only applys in Australia if the player is injured on international duty. Else they could de-register him for the whole season in which case his salary would not count on the cap?

Well if Powell isn’t worried, he should be.
Jamie Ellis is injured and looks so unfit it’s untrue. He’s also bang average at best.
Ben Roberts will be in hibernation until the sun comes out in June.
Corey Aston hasn’t played in SL and didn’t stand out in a lower division.

He’s talking about Segayaro. The money Leeds paid him before he left was then wiped from the cap (and rightly so).

Cas Tigers could open a can of worms here if the RFL don't grant dispensation. We could go out and sign a player under the marquee rule or even register Gale as a marquee player - even though he is unlikely to play in 2019. As a club we have always been against this approach and that is why we are seeking a dispensation ruling on Gale. The RFL will act favorably to Cas Tigers because it as created one giant loop-hole already.

How is signing another player or using the marquee exemption 'opening a can of worms'?
That is literally what you are supposed to do



Giving you a dispensation would be more contentious because they'd be setting a precedent. Every time a club had a seriously injured player they'd be wanting the same treatment.

Gale seems to have been blighted by injuries ever since his hair transplant, who was the donor, Stevie Ward?

I agree with this. The framework is already there for Cas to do this.

If the RFL makes dispensation, then how long will it be before someone who is not performing very well gets "injured" to allow a desperate club to make a panic signing.

Surely in this case it would have to be backed-up by a medical assessment.

Think you need to do your research on the Segeyarp saga because it’s nothing like the Gale situation. Segryaro wasn’t injured he left the club for another team....for arguments sake say we bought a Cas player this week he wouldn’t be on your cap for this year.

One very important thing is that we didn’t ask for dispensation to sign Parcell, we just had enough spare to still sign him because we always usually do leave some breathing space if we need to make s mid season signing, Lee Smith, Lautiiti for example. Even Cas last year clearly had cap space as they signed Watts a few Rounds in.....so all that’s happened here is Cas have spent all their cap this year without any room for manoeuvre if something like this happened. That’s just poor management of the cap and shouldn’t get dispensation, you took the risk to not leave yourself wiggle room with the cap.

And here I was thinking it was just Wakefield that you knew everything about!

So boring

I was beginning to think I had wasted my breath, or fingers.

I'm gonna have to go slightly against the grain of most Cas fans on here. If it was another club we'd be jumping up and down saying that's what squads are for and it shouldn't be allowed. Yes Gale is a big loss, but we have other halfs in the squad and so we need to get by and we will. I'm not saying that we'll make the top 5 without him, but we should do OK. We'll miss his goal kicking more than anything, which is worth a few games a season. I'd rather see the other lads step up and pull together for the team than get dispensation to go out and sign a journeyman. I'm more worried about our right edge than a position that we have cover options in.

It's a "live" cap and indeed was back then. As soon as Leeds stopped paying Segeyaro, they could then start paying someone else. Although as Printer points out, it's doubtful we were at full cap in any case.

Not fussed in the least about Cas getting their dispensation though. I'm pretty sure it's in the rules and has been done before, albeit not by Leeds AFAIK.

This is just made up though. Segeyaro wasn’t made exempt from the cap because he didn’t need to be because his contract was terminated before the season even started so we weren’t paying him.

Here’s an idea, if Cas want a new HB in so badly, well their’s still a few weeks before the season starts so why don’t they sell one of their players from another position to make cap space?

Remember that for salary cap purposes, the season starts on 1st December. The money that Leeds paid Seyayaro between then and when his contract was terminated was not counted on the cap for that season, even though he was paid it. And just to point out, that was clearly the right thing.

I don’t really see the complication in this. If Cas deregister Gale for the season, he’s not a registered player and therefore wouldn’t count on the salary cap as long as he doesn’t play all season. As soon as he’s registered though, his whole salary would (and should) be counted on the cap regardless of how many games he plays, so Cas must be pretty confident he’s out all year to consider asking for an exemption.

Think you need to do more research on the salary cap. You honestly think that if you go and sign a HB THIS week from Leeds or Saints or wherever that it will still count on there Cap for this season.

Also Segeyaro had failed to and refused to return to the UK back in November, so we won’t have been paying him in December.

The complication that you don’t want to see is that you’ll STILL be paying Gale week in week out throughout the year. Like I said why can’t Cas sell a player to make space? They want their cake and eat it.

I've not read this whole thread but surely Ben Roberts could fill the void could he not?

Roberts, Ellis, Trueman, Aston, McShane, Millington, Mata’utia, Milner, any lads in the academy

They’ve got plenty of guys who could play in the halves, they don’t need a HB, they just want one, that shouldn’t get dispensation. It’s not like football when teams runs out of fit goalkeepers and get dispensation to sign one because it’s a specialist position.

I would liken this more to when Wire signed Joey Johns. They were over the overseas quota so they deregistered Graham Appo. He was still on contract and still paid by Wire, but not allowed to play for them during the play offs.