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| Not a good game at all. Penalties, errors, bad video ref decisions, both teams very disjointed in attack. At least it's tight again.
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| Quote ="number 6"Saints seem to be getting away with a lot of niggling in the tackle'"
And more, that 4th min tackle by Greenwood was pretty high looking with the shoulder and Burns has made a couple of 3rd man in on the knee tackles. Are they taking the thugby route?
And then the constant cheating, let go on too long before the yellow came out. Seems the crowd don't like it, the obvious offsides on the TV even got a boo.
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| What the heck has happened to Saints' discipline? Those offsides were ridiculous.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Saints discipline is atrocious. They are lucky it's only one in the bin.'"
lucky to be 1 point down, everyone apart from the officials knows it should be 12/13-0 at half time!
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| Saints need to get a grip and get their heads back in this game. Those penalties were all fair in my view. Saints don't seem to have any focus. Time for wilkin to show some leadership and sort out his troops.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Indeed. The Saints chants of "You don't know what you're doing" post offside decision as the replay showed Percival in line with a Catalans PTB 5m out were an early season comedy moment.'"
I have a bit of sympathy with the fans at the game, I think any crowd would be thinking they were hard done by even though it turns out the ref is right.
But the real comedy was from the Saints players. Firstly to continue pushing the line with offside (Percival and others were even offside from the penalty given for offside) and messing about at the play the ball after 4/5 penalties in a row. And secondly the look of incredulity on some of the Saints players faces. Surely you knew you were offside? Y'know, when you were in line with the play the ball?
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| Is it just Scousers? Wigan thugs, Saints offside cheats or Saints fans constantly booing because they aren't getting their own way!
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| Catalans showing a lot of spirit. If they can adjust their kicking game to get behind Saints defence they can score again. But Saints had looked good in the first 20 minutes.
I expect Saints to beat a depleted Catalan team, but who knows? Thomas Bosc, Gregory Mounis and a couple of times John Zebolon Taia have done well.
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| If saints can sort themselves out they will run away with this in the 2nd half. Les Catalans haven looked like breaking them down and it took a looong string of (deserved) penalties to get them in.
If they keep giving away so any easy metres and easy repeat sets the Les Catalans could sneak it.
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| Quote ="Kosh"What the heck has happened to Saints' discipline? Those offsides were ridiculous.'"
They've always done it mate it's just that Bentham has had a funny turn.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"They've always done it mate it's just that Bentham has had a funny turn.'"
Oh I know they've generally got away with a lot, but to keep at it when the ref is penalising the crap out of you beggars belief.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Oh I know they've generally got away with a lot, but to keep at it when the ref is penalising the crap out of you beggars belief.'"
It's the way they have been coached into it and allowed to get away with it for years, it's just in the DNA now and they can't help themselves.
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| Massive shoulder charge from Escare there.
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| how different could this game have been if it wasn't on live tv? several decisions influenced or overturned by the video refs now (and there's no doubt tim roby was 'informed' of the shoulder charge). we need video refs in ALL games or NO games to have a level and fair field
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| The touch judge had a better view of that than any camera so I'll give him benefit of the doubt, but that was bloody close.
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| Has Lomax lost his pace? Seemed a bit slow getting caught by Oldfield then.
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| better from saints second half, sorted the discipline out, only questionable decision would be the shoulder charge by escare, no tv game that isnt a penalty and saints dont score!
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"Has Lomax lost his pace? Seemed a bit slow getting caught by Oldfield then.'"
He's just carrying on the tradition
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| A disappointing game in the end, very stop-start. Catalans looked terrible in attack, and were very one dimensional, but Saints' line speed was excellent. I hope for there sake they don't have to rely on Thomas Bosc in too many games this season, he's a poorer version of Matty Smith, and offers nothing.
Saints looked like Saints. When they were good they were almost unplayable, but they'll always give you a spell or 2 where they lose their discipline and make too many errors. The 2 Polynesians in particular look very dodgy to me, and the key for Saints will keeping Amor, and Walmsley fit and on the field for as long as possible.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Carney is at home in France with visitor Bryce Gibbs.'"
Funny that, sure looked like him sat in the stands next to Tonga. Why pretend to know where somebody is & who they are with?
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| Saints will be a good side once they get Walsh back on the park.Catalans did a good job of hanging in cosidering the setbacks before and during the game.if carney had been out there tonight it could very well have been a different story.still,dont think Cats will get near top 4 though,the coach is simply not good enough imo.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Saints will be a good side once they get Walsh back on the park.Catalans did a good job of hanging in cosidering the setbacks before and during the game.if carney had been out there tonight it could very well have been a different story.still,dont think Cats will get near top 4 though,the coach is simply not good enough imo.'"
I agree. LF seems very similar to Brian McDermott to me. Catalans are very 1 dimensional.
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Funny that, sure looked like him sat in the stands next to Tonga. Why pretend to know where somebody is & who they are with?'"
Not pretending at all. Just reading Todd's tweets of 2 days ago and assuming that they were full of truth about his visitors. France was where Todd was yesterday. Obviously he was compelled to fly to England with the team, even though he was not playing. Todd will be back home in France with house guest Bryce Gibbs tomorrow I am sure.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Saints will be a good side once they get Walsh back on the park.Catalans did a good job of hanging in cosidering the setbacks before and during the game.if carney had been out there tonight it could very well have been a different story.still,dont think Cats will get near top 4 though,the coach is simply not good enough imo.'"
With star halves Todd Carney and Scottt Dureau fit, as well as Villiami Sione Tonga back on the field unconcussed, Catalans attack is sure to be much more potent. I expect Carney and Dureau to lift the side massively, and to give Morgan Escare lots of try scoring opportunities.
Catalans will be in the top four. Let's watch them at home next weekend against Castleford -- hopefully with Scott Dureau and Todd Carney playing -- and see how they perform.
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| Some of our plays we looked unplayable imo. Fast and long passing putting our centres in plenty of space. We bombed a couple of tries e.g. Swift and Percival and it was probably the most ill disciplined performance from us with or without the ball that i have seen for a very long time. That for me is down to Wilkin he should be playing for a lesser team like Hull or Hull KR now.
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