New account??? Bongster has been here 8 years, your latest parody has only been here 2 years.

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Oh dear

I've seen a lot of Saints fans in complete melt down since yesterday. A lot are getting overly defensive, like our resident troll here. It really shows there is a culture of poor mentality there.

Anyone who doesn't see that Leigh have done everything right to build a strong, well experienced squad capable of challenging for silverware, needs their eyes tested.

Any Saints fans that don't see that their reign is coming to an end also need to wake up and smell the coffee. But they should not get so stroppy about it.

Waits for the troll to make an appearance.

Rowley was quite right in his post match interview. Although I like the way he forgot to mention one of his teams tries was on the back of a scandalous decision against Saints.

But overall he is right. The standard of officiating is terrible. 3 games, maybe 4 that Saints have lost this season purely down to the refs is not good enough. I am sure other teams are also on the receiving end as well so something needs to change.

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Which "scandalous": decision was that LeBron? I assume you weren't at the game so is it something you've picked up from RedVee?

Saints got plenty of favourable decisions yesterday so please don't start with the Scouse persecution complex that Saints fans are famous for having adopted.

Been quite a few Saints fans saying the first Salford try came from an obstruction, but to me the runner keeps running through the line. It'd be one of those ones that a video ref overanalyses.

The Knowles knock on was a bad miss though IMO. It may have gone backwards from a Salford shoulder, but Knowles either loses it forwards into that defender or passes it forward into that defender.

Worst thing about saints winning the grand final this season is Warringtonwolves69. He’s going to try and make out that this was some kind of unexpected, against the odds achievement, but one that is the greatest in human sporting history.

Reality is I called it before last season had even finished. It’s that predictable.

St Helens are already the greatest English club of all time. That is fact and cannot be disputed. If they manage to win SL for a fifth time despite the worst injury crisis in history and with the rfl doing their best to stop them it doesn’t add much to their legacy, it just shows how embarrassingly poor the rest of SL is.

There should only be 2 “A” licenses given out. Wigan and St Helens to rate any other club as A is laughable.

It isnt a fact though. Wigan are the most successful club of all time then Leeds then St Helens, that mate cannot be disputed.

We really don't need to dig over the bones of that one again. It's widely accepted that trophies won against manual labourers, painters and decorators and school teachers in the pre-professional era don't count. The ones Leeds won in that era do as they didn't go bust doing it at least. Are they not way behind Saints on titles won anyway? We don't need to include Mickey Mouse things like the Wetherby Whaler, BBC Yorkshire Candlelit Trophy or Challenge Cup.

The Knowles try was the right decision. He is about to pass it to the right, Salford player bundles through his arms and propels the ball towards his own line. Matty Lees reacts first and dives on it to score. That would likely have been given even if a video ref was about. The only dodgy bit of refereeing was potentially Ritson's foot being in touch, but it's incredibly close, so he could have been in. Salford got away with plenty themselves, but I agree the obstruction one was also the right call.

I see Salford's crying about the officials has got them a free pass from Cullen and his corrupt cronies. Two horrendous high shots, including a blatant shoulder to the head of Mark Percival and they walk away scot-free, likelly to prevent Rowley having another tantrum. James Bell gets a ban though, for a slight bump one millionth of a second after the ball had gone. Bizarre stuff again and blatantly demonstrates the different treatment of incidents based on the team the player is from (If it's St Helens). The sooner everyone on that rancid, corrupt, dirty committee is sacked the better.

Tell your mate on here to stop keep throwing it back in the ring then.

Still true though,whatever you say.

I’m merely stating a fact. St Helens are the greatest English rugby league side of all time

No they’re not. They’re the greatest sporting entity that’s ever existed in known human history.

Don’t agree with that. Miami heat, New England patriots and Georgia Tech are greater sporting entities. I’ve seen all 3 plus st Helen’s live and Georgia tech is easily the best game day experience

Saints playing the victim mentality is laughable. Try supporting an unsuccessful team and then you'll see the level of refereeing decisions you get against you. Our last 3 home games has been a perfect example of the state of officiating in the game. It's inept.

Top of the IMG agenda should be getting officials on board that are fit for purpose (and using technology at every game). The current bunch just aren't up to it.

Miami Heat

You need to look elsewhere for excuses, your last 3 games have been horrendous for missed tackles and your clean breaks stats are really poor. Brodie Croft seems to drift in and out of the game for long spells his game on Sunday was completely invisible and ineffective in the second half.

Discipline was also shocking should get a rename to Salford Headhunters.

@TheWarringtonWolve69 , please state all the facts that they are the greatest of all time.

Poppycock. Sent Ellins is a small economically deprived town. No sporting entity in known history has achieved as much success in relation to their resources. They are undoubtedly the best in British rugby league history, by a distance of light years. But also, the world. A beacon of sporting perfection and excellence the likes of which will never be matched.

You've lost 7 games in a row suppose that's all down to refs too?.

Have you been at our last 3 home games? No I thought not.

When you lose 3 games by 2/3 points and the refs have made some shocking decisions in every game then you've every right to question their competency. We're fully aware we've missed tackles and given penalties away but there's no excuse for the officials making some pretty basic errors without much in the way of mitigation.

Selective eyesight from Stains fans as usual.

I've highlighted 3 games where woeful officiating has cost us 2 points.

The other 4 games games against Wakey, KR, Wigan & Cats we just weren't very good and were beaten by the better team.

Does that help?