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| Quote ="Chris1953"Was just hoping to get some fairly unbiased opinions of Tom Briscoes performance today...
I thought he was left out to dry by Smith and Mc Guire as do a few other hull fans, obviously the rovers fans disagree, but i was just interested in getting some other opinions.'"
what a tool you are chris ,you post a topic on our forum gloating on fox's ommision and then when t briscoe is exposed at international level and it all goes wrong you are scared to come on our forum obviously embarrassed, so you post on this forum hoping to get some solice.
hopefully this will teach your gloating side a lesson
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| Quote ="kitche"what a tool you are chris ,you post a topic on our forum gloating on fox's ommision and then when t briscoe is exposed at international level and it all goes wrong you are scared to come on our forum obviously embarrassed, so you post on this forum hoping to get some solice.
hopefully this will teach your gloating side a lesson
'" Fox deserved to be omitted with glaring errors against lowly Wales that can't be questioned. The OP was simply asking what Tom did to deserve being dropped, something maybe you could answer for us.
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| Quote ="fcimp"Fox deserved to be omitted with glaring errors against lowly Wales that can't be questioned. The OP was simply asking what Tom did to deserve being dropped, something maybe you could answer for us.'"
It's not a case of him "deserving" anything.
He's simply not up to this standard of RL as an athlete.
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| Did anyone notice Briscoe being Sick after he'd chased Inglis all that way back??
The lad looked completely out on his feet after that and never really looked comfortable for the rest of the half.
I really don't think he was taken off for any other reason.
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| Briscoe seemed like he was glued to the touchline in the first half seemed to be a bit of a rabbit in the headlights. Our right handside defense was crap because of Briscoe's poor decsion making, Smith and McGuire's soft tackling and the fact JP had gone walk about (he's nowhere near atheletic enough to play in the back row any more)
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| He looked no worse than the other muppets in the back line, but that's hardly praise! Doesn't look big or strong enough or to have the footwork to make it at this level yet.
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"Great statement. Now, how about backing it up with some examples.'"
Second half, the kiwi game last week, just two this last few days.
The phrase "nipped in the bud"comes to mind.
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| calderwood or raynor should be in the squad and playing
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| Quote ="back to back to back"LOL
I love how people think they know better than the coach.
How they think he'd take a player off who didnt deserve it and leave one on who was at fault for the tries (according to people on here he was at fault).
You people are retards.'"
in that case why would any coach ever get sacked? you are effectively saying they dont make bad decisons
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| What about Ryan Hall, nothing without Keith Senior, so overated!!!
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| Quote ="moxi1"What about Ryan Hall, nothing without Keith Senior, so overated!!!'"
Im guessing this is sarcasm?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Im guessing this is sarcasm?'"
Probably not, hes a Rovers fan
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| Wasn't Briscoe originally brought through as a centre?
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"Wasn't Briscoe originally brought through as a centre?'"
Tom ? Yes he was, been given the number 3 shirt next season to.
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| Quote ="penny for your thoughts"calderwood or raynor should be in the squad and playing
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I still believe that Raynor is the best British winger there is, however due to erm, other commitments, he probably won't be playing for Hull next year, let alone England.
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| Quote ="moxi1"What about Ryan Hall, nothing without Keith Senior, so overated!!!'"
then again it shows how good senior has been all these years.
bit like gardiner outside gidley.
shenton is a decent player but has given no quality ball whatsoever to hall
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| Quote ="FC Callum"Tom ? Yes he was, been given the number 3 shirt next season to.'"
Indeed... here's hoping he has a belting season in Super League as a centre and maybe if Kallum Watkins and Michael Lawrence kick on we could have some quality young centres to take down under for the next 4 Nations
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| Quote ="Dunbar"Indeed... here's hoping he has a belting season in Super League as a centre and maybe if Kallum Watkins and Michael Lawrence kick on we could have some quality young centres to take down under for the next 4 Nations'"
Certainly hope so. The bad thing for Tom is that he hasnt got the height as most centres. So he probably is going to be a target for the high kicks. Hopefully some more young backs shine in Super League next year.
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| Quote ="General Zod."In modern RL, the back-three i.e. 2 wingers and the full-back have a crucial role to play in terms of returning the ball quickly to enable good "exit sets" and although some my analyse the game and say Briscoe "didn't do anything wrong" he didn't return the ball quick enough which resulted in an accumulation of pressure which is why the Aussie game plan was built around kicking behind him.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"then again it shows how good senior has been all these years.
bit like gardiner outside gidley.
shenton is a decent player but has given no quality ball whatsoever to hall'"
I'm sure he would love to recieve some himself.
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| Quote ="pyeman"I'm sure he would love to recieve some himself.'"
Quite. We never really had any structure in attack but relied on offloads a hell of a lot. Outside backs didnt receive any quality ball although Eastmond tried to change that 2nd half.
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| With Briscoe on Oz 26 England 0.
With Briscoe off Oz 0 England 16.
Whats the argument ?
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| Quote ="Bertie"With Briscoe on Oz 26 England 0.
With Briscoe off Oz 0 England 16.
Whats the argument ?'"
With Smith playing centre Oz 26 England 0.
With Smith not playing centre Oz 0 England 16.
Whats the argument ?
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| I really don't think Briscoe did a lot wrong. The problems on that side defensively were not down to Briscoe, nor do I think they were down to 1 player specifically.
Briscoe > Smith > McGuire > Peacock just didn't work as a combination defensively, I don't think Peacock is mobile enough these days to cover 2nd row and McGuire and Smith were always going to struggle as a pairing defensively without cover from the 2nd row.
Hall > Shenton > Tomkins > Ellis was always going to be a much much better defensive line, evidenced by a lot of frustration from Justin Hodges and Jarryd Hayne on the day.
Sadly I think Briscoe will however cop the flack and get dropped.
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| Tom Briscoe got made to look like a scapegoat by Tony Smith which was totally unfair imo.
I didn't really notice the lad do anything wrong and much more experienced players would have had a similar first half playing outside Laurel and Hardy.
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