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| WHEN we are on about fans fighting years ago ,at Hull krs old ground many a time fighting started and with me and the wife taking our kids we were able in them days to stand on the steps in the old ground which lead up to the seats, any how with standing on the steps you were able to spot the trouble makers and one was posh has hell suit and tie job, he would start the trouble then move of when we were able we told the police they did not believe us when we pointed him out to them but the next home game a plain clothes police man was stood their and pinched him so what i am saying is it will always happen that you get dick heads out to cause trouble
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| Quote ="meast"why wouldn't people condemn it?
that behaviour is not acceptable anywhere, never mind at a high profile RL event!
it's violence, violence associated with RL fans, are you happy to have a label of RL fans being violent drunks?
were you involved by any chance? you seem to be condoning that sort of behaviour.'"
Is English your native tongue? How on earth did you interpret my comments as condoning this behaviour!?
Quite often fans (of any sport) would play the blame game and/or try and try and downplay it's severity. I think it's great that we have family-friendly atmospheres at matches and are determined to preserve that!
Let me know if you need any further clarification
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| It was disgusting. I saw a wigan fan kicking a leeds fan on the floor so i pulled him away. Cant stand around and watch things like that. I dont even know who started it all
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| Quote ="SecondRowSaint"Yes it could, it happens all over the country every weekend.'"
what? rival football fans mingling in all the pubs around a stadium? i find that very hard to believe.
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| Happens all the time at major finals when idiots go on the lash,I've been to a few grand finals watching other teams with my relatives and mates from Wigan and we have been out early but never got in any punch ups as we just went for a good day out and a game of rugby.
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| Is that it? Out of 73,000 people a 30 second scuffle? If that was "shocking" you're too precious for this world!
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| Quote ="ryano"Is that it? Out of 73,000 people a 30 second scuffle?
If that was "shocking" you're too precious for this world!'"
You're a dolt, it only takes a few to tarbrush others, getting a bad reputation does massive damage to the sport but it would seem you're excusing it/passing it off as nothing!
There's never an excuse or are you one of the Neanderthals that can't wait to get involved in this kind of tery
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"You're a dolt, it only takes a few to tarbrush others, getting a bad reputation does massive damage to the sport but it would seem you're excusing it/passing it off as nothing!
There's never an excuse or are you one of the Neanderthals that can't wait to get involved in this kind of tery
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This!
Out of an amazing final, great day of RL, which do you think has the chance of bringing the most headlines? A few idiots have the potential to overshadow over 70k having a great day.
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| Quote ="meast"why wouldn't people condemn it?
that behaviour is not acceptable anywhere, never mind at a high profile RL event!
it's violence, violence associated with RL fans, are you happy to have a label of RL fans being violent drunks?
were you involved by any chance? you seem to be condoning that sort of behaviour.'"
You love it don't you. A few weeks back after the Bradford game it was Wakefield with the Hooligan problem - you knew this even though you weren't there.
Now it Leeds.
Well pal its everywhere and everyone - yep even Huddersfield. People drink, drink makes most people stupid and stupid people very stupid. Put 70000 people together and occasionally the very stupid prevail.
I believe it's called human nature. You can condemn it all day long but it will never really change.
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| Quote ="vastman"Well pal its everywhere and everyone - yep even Huddersfield.'"
That's his point you great witless dandy
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| Quote ="vbfg"That's his point you great witless dandy'"
Well of course he did - you chump
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| Quote ="vastman"Well of course he did - you chump
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Is it just me or, does that post make no sense?
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| This is becoming a big problem at major RL events. Which is sad, because we can no longer boast about how civilised the sport is.
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| Quote ="vastman"Well of course he did - you chump
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That makes no sense whatsoever, but it appears to be an attempt at a patronising denial. You have no idea how to be condescending at all. (That means talk down to people).
This is a quote from the person you're trying to pick a row with.
Quote i am in no way suggesting that only Leeds fans cause trouble, what i was saying is that every clubs has an idiot element to their support,'"
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| Quote ="ryano"Is that it? Out of 73,000 people a 30 second scuffle?
If that was "shocking" you're too precious for this world!'"
It wasn't a 30 second scuffle. The video is a small part of it.
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| This whole thread is a good example of why RL gets poor/bad press reports. What appears to have have been a small skirmish involving a few morons who can't hold their beer has evolved into a major blame game on here, a few "fans" have uploaded a video the press have picked up on a non story and 7 pages (on this forum alone) the press have their story from a great day. Yet we all blame the a RFL!
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| Quote ="Kiyan"This whole thread is a good example of why RL gets poor/bad press reports. What appears to have have been a small skirmish involving a few morons who can't hold their beer has evolved into a major blame game on here, a few "fans" have uploaded a video the press have picked up on a non story and 7 pages (on this forum alone) the press have their story from a great day. Yet we all blame the a RFL!'"
Again, it wasn't a small skirmish.
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| Quote ="Kiyan"This!
Out of an amazing final, great day of RL, which do you think has the chance of bringing the most headlines? A few idiots have the potential to overshadow over 70k having a great day.'"
Already happened. The Daily Telegraph has it as their top RL story. You give these rags any opportunity to paint RL in a negative light and they'll take it.
So well done to those involved and very well done to the moron Andy Fenton who posted the video on Facebook, who now thinks he's famous because his video's on a news website.
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| Maybe it’s a sad reflection on football, but it’s a regular occurrence when watching United home and away. I’ve seen the video of the trouble in Sam Platts and whilst it might seem to major to some people, to others it will be nothing more than a minute or two of scuffling.
I would hazard a guess that nobody was hurt, apart from the bouncer who was hit with a stray bottle. These lads would have been pushing each other more than they were punching. Still no excuse for it, particularly when there are children around but the fact that this is the only incident of violence I can remember this season reinforces that RL is still a family sport. Fights will always happen everywhere, even more so at major finals.
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| Its sad when I have to say I'm glad I didn't take my kids on Saturday...
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Its sad when I have to say I'm glad I didn't take my kids on Saturday...'"
Unfortunately we had kids with us. I was holding one above my head while 4 blokes were punching and kicking another man lying on the floor about 2 yards in front of me.
But it was only a skirmish and I'm "a bit precious" according to one poster earlier.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Unfortunately we had kids with us. I was holding one above my head while 4 blokes were punching and kicking another man lying on the floor about 2 yards in front of me.
But it was only a skirmish and I'm "a bit precious" according to one poster earlier.'"
Not good at all is it.
Those instantly branding this on the Leeds fans should read the following (A Fenton the one who posted the vid on Twitter):
Nigel Hawkin @expressbrandbiz Oct 10
@AFenton90 Leeds should have the cup taken off them for this but I bet nowt even gets said !! RFL and @LeedsRhinosNews are the same thing
Andrew Fenton
@AFenton90
@expressbrandbiz @LeedsRhinosNews no honestly it was without doubt the Wigan fans that started this trouble! They were after it for hours
Mark Weatherall @Mdweatherall84 23h23 hours ago
@AFenton90 @expressbrandbiz @LeedsRhinosNews Leeds fans were trying to have banter, all young Wigan fans just wanted to fight!
Andrew Fenton @AFenton90 23h23 hours ago
@Mdweatherall84 @expressbrandbiz @LeedsRhinosNews agreed mate that's how I saw it too. Even as a cas fan I enjoyed been with the rhino fans
And this is from Cas fans...
That doesn't mean to say Leeds fans didnt have their share of idiots there on Saturday as OT was full of them, but this instance, Leeds obviously reacted to it, but wasn't looking for it.
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| Was it those Wigan ultras again? The Brigantes and their aggressive, football-holigan styled flags and logos? They were all about 12 and spotty geeks the last time I saw them, but maybe they grew since then?
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| Slightly off topic but I shared a house at University with a lad who grew up in Wembley and asked to name who were the worst fans to visit his hometown he picked the RL fans coming down for the challenge cup final over and above any football fans (we're going back early/mid 90s now). It's always around at the big days, too much big boys pop and bravado.
Had some complete cretins from Leeds sat behind me on Saturday, one of the women kept screaming and shouting 'kill the c*nts'. What a delight she was. Had my 8 year old son with me and it obviously got to him a bit. Generally I go with a 'what you hear at rugby stays there' but this was constant on and on and on. I was a bit gutted it upset him and he wanted to leave at the final whistle rather than stay for the trophy presentation. Just bad luck to be sat in front of an utter tramp.
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