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| Quote ="LeythIg"What specifically are referring to when they suggest Leigh started to get niggly in second half - Genuinely would like to know. Thought the tone was set when Hopkins made the break, which led to ankle tap on Goulden during first set of second half. Then an offload finally came off to send Kay off, and he took three knocks to the head in incident that led to the sin bins.
Thought it was more a case of Leigh running harder and more direct, while Wakefield probably thought it was job done. Then got some momentum, which was only broken temporarily by a close call with video ref.'"
In the 2nd half, i didnt like all the shots from a 3rd or 4th man into the tackle who was hitting the guys in the back when the tackle was virtually complete - think Simon was the victim of one of those
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| Quote ="LeythIg"Still not sure why Kay was sin binned'"
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| Great game, Leigh still showing they clearly have what it takes, wish their management team would come to London!
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| Worth noting that in Leigh's 30 man squad the only non English player is Fui Fui Moi Moi. There is plenty of British talent outside Super League if you know where to look. Kay, Brierley and Armstrong will all be top 4 SL players within the next 2/3 years IMO.
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| Quote ="Nozzy"Worth noting that in Leigh's 30 man squad the only non English player is Fui Fui Moi Moi. There is plenty of British talent outside Super League if you know where to look. Kay, Brierley and Armstrong will all be top 4 SL players within the next 2/3 years IMO.'"
To be fair, they've all come through the development of Super League clubs so they've obviously got the talent, particularly Armstrong who only left Saints to finish his studies. Interesting to see how they've developed now, as I'd say both Cas and Wakey would be chuffed to have Brierley and Kay back! Perhaps Leigh playing in the Championship allows them to be slightly more patient with the development of players which serves them better in the long term?
Found it a really interesting match to watch yesterday. Leigh conceded some really soft tries, and I can't believe the amount of ball they dropped. They struck me as a team used to playing in matches where most offloads come off, and even if they don't, they aren't punished by the opposition - very much similar to the difference between NRL and SL teams in the World Club Series. But they back themselves really well, in the half time team talk Paul Rowley told them not to change their playing style! This plus the fact they're a bloody skillful team and they're all willing to work for each other means they do have the potential to do really well.
However, I think their playing style means on those bad days where the offloads just aren't coming off and the passes just aren't sticking, things could be really bad. I can't wait to see how the match against Warrington goes...Warrington certainly won't be taking them lightly!
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| Leigh have been sloppy with possession since around the Salford game. It's an issue we need to sort out then and this is not our greatest patch of form during the 25 match winning run.
On an interesting note, we can reach a new British record 30 consecutive wins before we play Warrington in the QF. Some tough games to come - Featherstone at summer Bash next weekend and London Away both look particularly difficult - but it's up for grabs
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| Well this is an entertaining thread.
Interesting to see that Leigh are already upsetting a few with their success so far.
The comments at the start about them not being able to beat Wakefield, completely forgetting that they had already seen off Salford are quality examples of jumping the gun.
A close game for Widnes and Catalan against sides spending far more money.
How will they all cope in the Super 8's????
How can a side spending less get promoted. Well if they beat Salford and Wakefield, then they are not going to need to play in the million pound game and that could mean 2 sides up and 2 sides down. That would really put the cat amongst the pigeons. Although I'm still more of the opinion that it's not clear cut at this stage. Too many games and injuries to call it this early in the day.
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| Without wanting to sound condescending and sour I thought Leigh were very fortunate against Salford, in the weeks leading up to the game we lost a number of key players through suspension and injury and then lost Dobson and Sa'u 10-15 minutes in which caused us major issues. BJB then threw that ridiculous off-load into Brierleys hands 10 metres from our own line to gift them the win.
However, when you're a Championship team you need that luck sometimes in the Challenge Cup against Super League teams. I therefore, even after that game couldn't buy into the Leigh hype.
Yesterday though I there was no luck, involved Leigh were just quite simply the better team. On paper they're not, but as a unit and a team they definitely are. Wakefield shocked them in the first 40 and Leigh didn't have a clue what had hit them, their poor completion rate was no fluke it was a result of Wakefield's intensity in defence. However second half Wakefield dropped off considerably and Leigh ran them ragged, playing some fantastic and expansive RL.
You could see it in the way their forwards were running and their backs were attacking, they just simply wanted it more. Concerning times for Wakefield.
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| Quote ="Him"Turning point for me was Kirmond being sin binned. Wakefield lost their way after that. Whilst you have to stand up to the aggression from Leigh, I have no idea what Kirmond was doing.'"
Kirmond threw 3 punches in the tackle & started the niggle, he was even useless at that & was flapping like a school girl.
He threw another later on at Oli Wilkes behind the sticks & missed again.
It's all there plain as day on TV.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"In the 2nd half, i didnt like all the shots from a 3rd or 4th man into the tackle who was hitting the guys in the back when the tackle was virtually complete - think Simon was the victim of one of those'"
But did you like the 'air' punches from Kirmond on Kay in the tackle, or did you prefer the two head shots on Pownall by the Wakey winger & Ali Lauatiti followed up with a neck grapple by the ginger whinger Chris Riley ?
As a team Leigh lack size, but have a pack mentality & if they receive niggle they give it back but twice as hard, those lads would practically die for each other it seems.
Nothing wrong in that, they just do it better & tougher.
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| watching the footage, Liam Kay was sin binned for 'lashing out' but missing his target !
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| Somehow I had temporarily forgotten the dangerous throw on Ryan Brierley in the Leigh are Niggly thread too.
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| Quote ="Nozzy"Worth noting that in Leigh's 30 man squad the only non English player is Fui Fui Moi Moi. There is plenty of British talent outside Super League if you know where to look. Kay, Brierley and Armstrong will all be top 4 SL players within the next 2/3 years IMO.'"
How old is Armstrong, now?
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"In the 2nd half, i didnt like all the shots from a 3rd or 4th man into the tackle who was hitting the guys in the back when the tackle was virtually complete - think Simon was the victim of one of those'"
Leigh only had to defend one set in the second half before scoring 2 tries. Two of those tackles were 3 man tackles. If that's throwing you off your game then there are serious problems
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"How old is Armstrong, now?'"
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Time for Wakey's annual 7 game winning streak
John Kear to return?
Wakey have a good squad, just a case if the new coach can get them off the ground and get some wins on the board and get some confidence in the players.
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Time for Wakey's annual 7 game winning streak
John Kear to return?
Wakey have a good squad, just a case if the new coach can get them off the ground and get some wins on the board and get some confidence in the players.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Time for Wakey's annual 7 game winning streak
John Kear to return?
Wakey have a good squad, just a case if the new coach can get them off the ground and get some wins on the board and get some confidence in the players.'"
Indeed, if they can get someone in place in the next couple of weeks, they have plenty of games to sort out their structures prior to the middle eight bun fight.
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| Quote ="Nozzy"Worth noting that in Leigh's 30 man squad the only non English player is Fui Fui Moi Moi. There is plenty of British talent outside Super League if you know where to look. Kay, Brierley and Armstrong will all be top 4 SL players within the next 2/3 years IMO.'"
Koukash has been following Armstrong on Twitter for the last few weeks now. He is also promising to sign young British players. 2 + 2 =....
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| Why would Armstrong join a smaller club like Salford? I am sure the lad has ambition.
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Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Koukash has been following Armstrong on Twitter for the last few weeks now. He is also promising to sign young British players. 2 + 2 =....'"
He’s currently on a 2yr deal, yeah I know that don’t necessarily mean much, but Tom joined Leigh as a part time player, as for some reason he couldn’t combine his uni studies and Full time Pro rugby at Saints.
When Leigh went full time, they offered Tom a FT contract that allowed him to continue with his education, for which he’s just won an award for combining the two.
www.leighcenturions.com/news/772
Hopefully both appreciate what each has done for one another and we (Leigh) mange to keep him for a few more seasons.
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Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Koukash has been following Armstrong on Twitter for the last few weeks now. He is also promising to sign young British players. 2 + 2 =....'"
He’s currently on a 2yr deal, yeah I know that don’t necessarily mean much, but Tom joined Leigh as a part time player, as for some reason he couldn’t combine his uni studies and Full time Pro rugby at Saints.
When Leigh went full time, they offered Tom a FT contract that allowed him to continue with his education, for which he’s just won an award for combining the two.
www.leighcenturions.com/news/772
Hopefully both appreciate what each has done for one another and we (Leigh) mange to keep him for a few more seasons.
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Quote ="glow"He’s currently on a 2yr deal, yeah I know that don’t necessarily mean much, but Tom joined Leigh as a part time player, as for some reason he couldn’t combine his uni studies and Full time Pro rugby at Saints.
When Leigh went full time, they offered Tom a FT contract that allowed him to continue with his education, for which he’s just won an award for combining the two.
www.leighcenturions.com/news/772
Hopefully both appreciate what each has done for one another and we (Leigh) mange to keep him for a few more seasons.'"
Does he normally play Centre or Wing for you?
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Quote ="glow"He’s currently on a 2yr deal, yeah I know that don’t necessarily mean much, but Tom joined Leigh as a part time player, as for some reason he couldn’t combine his uni studies and Full time Pro rugby at Saints.
When Leigh went full time, they offered Tom a FT contract that allowed him to continue with his education, for which he’s just won an award for combining the two.
www.leighcenturions.com/news/772
Hopefully both appreciate what each has done for one another and we (Leigh) mange to keep him for a few more seasons.'"
Does he normally play Centre or Wing for you?
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Does he normally play Centre or Wing for you?'"
Centre with Kay as his partner in crime out on the wing.
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