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| Quote ="The Avenger"Oh dear!
The fact remains that Escare is well behind everyone on my list including the Leeds full back
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You keep telling yourself that and it might become true some day.
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| With his try against Widnes tonight Morgan Escare has scored 14 tries and thus climbed to equal (with Tommy Makinson) top try scorer in Super League.
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| Quote ="JonB95"You keep telling yourself that and it might become true some day.
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It's true already, he's a good player and knows his way to the try line but isn't as strong in defence as any on my list.
He has good speed and footwork but anything other than a clear run to the line or the space to use his footwork ends in him being tackled because he lacks the strength of those on my list.
Quote ="JonB95"Major myth, Escaré is very good under the high ball most of the time.'"
That's a contradiction, if you're only good under the high ball "most of the time" then by definition you're not good under the high ball!
Quote ="JonB95"similar to a certain S. Tomkins in size'"
He's nothing like similar to Sam Tomkins, who despite being slim is all muscle and sinew and deceptively strong and explosively powerfull due to his conditioning, apart from that Tomkins is significantly bigger than Escare.
Look, I like Escare, he's great to watch and is an exciting prospect but 2nd best full back in SL NO!
Maybe in the future after he's rounded his game and improved a lot he might become the best fullback in SL but he's a long way off that right now.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"It's true already, he's a good player and knows his way to the try line but isn't as strong in defence as any on my list.
He has good speed and footwork but anything other than a clear run to the line or the space to use his footwork ends in him being tackled because he lacks the strength of those on my list.
That's a contradiction, if you're only good under the high ball "most of the time" then by definition you're not good under the high ball!
He's nothing like similar to Sam Tomkins, who despite being slim is all muscle and sinew and deceptively strong and explosively powerfull due to his conditioning, apart from that Tomkins is significantly bigger than Escare.
Look, I like Escare, he's great to watch and is an exciting prospect but 2nd best full back in SL NO!
Maybe in the future after he's rounded his game and improved a lot he might become the best fullback in SL but he's a long way off that right now.'"
Take it from a fan who knows Morgan well and sees him on a regular basis. I'm not saying he is necessarily 2nd best as I don't judge players that way but he deserves far more credit than you give. Every full back has their moments under the high ball and from what i have seen Morgan is similar to the likes of Tomkins and Slater on that front.
His positioning in Catalans attacking moves is also exceptional as well as his explosive speed off the mark, these combine to contribute to his outstanding try tally - if he was English he would be hailed as the second coming of Jesus Christ.
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| And his try against Warrington near the end of the game the other week? Could the other full backs on your list do that? Was that just Morgan using his 'footwork and pace'? I would stop watching rugby league it it was just a contest of strength and muscularity.
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| Another 90 metre sprint against Hull FC gives Morgan Escare 15 tries, at the top of the SL try scoring list alongside Tommy Makinson.
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| Very good player, but I wouldn't swap him for Shaul.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Another 90 metre sprint against Hull FC gives Morgan Escare 15 tries, at the top of the SL try scoring list alongside Tommy Makinson.'"
And Joel Monaghan.
If only try scoring was the only factor.
He's also missed more tackles than any other full-back too unless you count Jarrod Sammut's experiment at full-back.
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| Quote ="Fully"And Joel Monaghan.
If only try scoring was the only factor.
He's also missed more tackles than any other full-back too unless you count Jarrod Sammut's experiment at full-back.'"
Morgan's problem is that he is so small and light (73 kg), so he has a hard time in one on one tackles against 100 kg or more opponents. If only he could bulk up a little (even 5 kg) he might do better.
But Morgan is not just a try scorer: he also has more try assists than any other full back.
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| Rhys Hanbury has 11 - so no he doesn't.
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| His backing up is second to none, seems to be in the right place all the time when he does. In general though he is young and has a lot to learn. He's not quite Billy Slater just yet. I think having a player like Webb around who has done the lot in the game tapping him on the shoulder every now and again is what he needs, that and just to develop without pressure on him. Same goes for Pelissier at hooker, he has much more chance to impact the game with his speed when he has the experienced Henderson around him.
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| Has anyone discussed how big his penis is yet?
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Has anyone discussed how big his penis is yet?'"
Can't be that big .. it would affect his aerodynamics , maybe he has it ' tucked up' when he runs..
Aside very quick player , but if I had the choice of Fullback to take , Hardaker & Shaul would be picked before the french geezer . so a possible 3rd , at least until next week when Knobby flies in .. then he'll be 4th
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| Would rather keep Shaul than have Escare. The lad's a talent, but I rate Shaul higher.
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| A little O/T but did I read somewhere the other day that Catalan will have a team in the under 19s league from next season or am I just making that up?
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| Isn't it great to be discussing a foreign player being one of the star turns in Super League as opposed to solely British players?
He is going ok at the moment and I am happy to leave it as that.
Enjoy watching him play.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Escare is well behind:
Hardaker
Lomax
Bowen
Shaul
Grix
Russell
Eden
Gaskell
Hanbury
Tansey
Nesiasi Mataitonga
Ben cockayne
and richie mathers.'"
Behind Eden!!!
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| I would put him 4th behind Hardaker, Lomax and Grix and on par with Shaul.
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| I would have him in the top few full backs in the comp.
Hardaker is the best. Bowen is good, but age has got to him, so if offered the two I would pick Escare. Russell is strong, probably making him a superior selection just by his size and strength. Lomax is a different player, and a more rounded player. Shaul is good, but I prefer Escare.
Kevin Locke will be very very good also.
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"I would have him in the top few full backs in the comp.
Hardaker is the best. Bowen is good, but age has got to him, so if offered the two I would pick Escare. Russell is strong, probably making him a superior selection just by his size and strength. Lomax is a different player, and a more rounded player. Shaul is good, but I prefer Escare.
Kevin Locke will be very very good also.'"
Whoah, steady on there. Don't you know the first rule of the VT, no Warrington players are allowed to be in the top 5 of any "best <position> in Super League" threads?
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"Whoah, steady on there. Don't you know the first rule of the VT, no Warrington players are allowed to be in the top 5 of any "best <position> in Super League" threads?
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Dispensation rule 8.4.1 section 2 states that the rule doesn't apply to Wigan academy products.
Come on, you know that!
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Great tackle on Ben Jones Bishop.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Great tackle on Ben Jones Bishop.'"
It was a shocker. Defence is the one part of his game that he has to improve drastically if he is to become the greatest full back in Super League. But that is not to deny his brilliance in attack.
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