Can't remember where but I was reading an article a couple of days ago saying the very early hires did cost money but they kept going, built momentum and now make a profit on their Wembley hire events.

The lad who sits next to me at work went together with five others from his family. None of them have ever been to a rugby game before, the tickets cost a fiver each. Nice PR work. As a rapidly being alienated London Broncos fan I wish that the RL game down here had been able to build something like this. If only we'd got our hands on Mark Evans when we were part of the Quins set up, things may have been very different down here now. Instead we are left looking on at Sarries pulling in a crowd that will, realistically, outnumber the all the gates at Broncos, Skolars, Hemel, Oxford, Gloucestershire and South Wales this season combined. I doubt Mark would have tolerated the mess the junior development system is in down here either.

The RFL not letting IL keep his interest in London combined with David Hughes not having the slightest ing clue and being incapable of taking advice from anyone have landed the club in exactly the kind of situation that many fans predicted.

IL and Mark Evans put together the move to the Stoop...the minute IL stepped back, Hughes, who has very little in the way of business acumen other than flogging oil, quickly soured the relationship with Evans, who was our only champion at TW2.When Evans left TW2, the Quins Board of Directors and new CEO were chillier than cool towards us as they saw us no longer as an opportunity, but as a rent-paying hindrance.

People underestimate the stupidity of David Hughes sometimes.........In the 7 years since IL was made to walk away, Hughes has lost 70% of our crowds, 70% of our games and £14,000,000.

I predicted at the start of this year, before the fixtures were announced, that London Broncos points conceded total for the year would be bigger than their lowest attendance in SL XIX........I suspect that I may be proven correct in this prediction by the end of April.

It truly is a frustrating end to a situation that could and should have been so different.

Tony Copsey was very pro the joint enterprise too. His departure from Quins RU left us on a weaker position at The Stoop.

Mark out his neck on the block when he moved Quins RU games to Twickers but built it into something special which Sarries learnt from. Broncos gave away travel card holders and sponsored a handful of cabs instead.

...don't forget the viral videos that were also played on a loop at ANZAC bars in the capital



In fact, I was wrong earlier when I said Hughes had lost 70% of out fans, 70% of our games and £14,000,000.......I forgot to count the RFL/SKY grant money as well as the Ticketing, sponsorship and corporate revenues raised in that period too.......he's actually wasted closer to £28,000,000

You weren't sat in any of these seats then? Great crowd but announcing 83,900 (in a 90k stadium) was a lie.

We had managed to get this thread away from the inane mumblings regarding a Union club game crowd......well done you for getting it back on topic

Here speaketh the ultimate thread hijacker. Read the opening post to this thread. I was just pointing out that it was a lie and should not be claiming any records.

Not read the whole thread, but they were giving tickets away if you bought/ renewed your insurance in the last month at least. Perception is everything though and people are talking about this huge crowd not how many actually paid anything. Exactly the same as the RFL did to fill stadia at the RLWC.

Who won the kickandmaulathon ?

Replies not necessary RU is boring to watch and folk go for nothing more than a good p*ss up.

I would suggest that if they go to watch that rubbish then they're already p*ssed up.

Official attendance of 67,575 at Wembley for the RLWC semi final double header.



No, really.

Yep, looks about 67k there to me. Or do we just stick with misleading pictures to try and prove a point?

You and your misleading pictures to try and prove a point





Why can't you just admit that both League and Union massage attendance figures with freebies, cheapies and no-shows?

Are you really that insecure about the sport you clearly care about?

How the hell is this picture (with packed stands during the Aussie-Fiji game misleading)? Australia and Fiji are playing and the stands are full. Look at it again?

I like many thousands left at half-time with it being around 36-0 and I was freezing my nuts off. I suppose I didn't attend the game then nor did the other tens of thousands in the image below? Or is there a new clock in, clock out rule I haven't heard about?

Deary me you misleading Shoe Shine Johnny, you!



Packed stands, my booty!

The stands weren't even packed for England V New Zealand.







I'll ask you again.

Why can't you just admit that both League and Union massage their attendance figures with freebies, cheapies, empty red seats and no-shows?

You tried to make out no-one was there for Fiji-Australia, I just showed you a photo that showed there were full stands for that game in the first half (of the sections that were opened). That is the only point I have made on this entire thread.

Apparently lost of tennis competitions make losses for the first few yrs, they build crowds and sponsors and after a few yrs, and then they start making money, I was watching the Cincinatti Masters a couple of years ago and they were going on about this. I used to watch a lot of the WTA, until all the women started to be bigger than me, bring back my favourite sportsperson ever, M Hingis; and J Henin too. I know D Cibulkova is shorter than me, but that's about it.

lol

Sounds like Sale Sharks attendance announcements.