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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Just from SL years Halifax conceded 1227 in 2003 from 28 games which is the most total points during the SL era, at an average of 43.8 per game.
However Workington conceded 1021 in 1996 but that was only a 22 game season so have the higher average of 46.4 per game.'"
My main concern is that London Broncos points against column may well exhibit a number that is bigger than our lowest crowd this year. Looking at the Salford pack that will line up against us on Saturday, if they don't stick 70+ on us, Nobby should be fired.
London's average attendance this year will be way south of 2k........and for the first time in 12 years of defending the club, I suspect that of the 26k who to attend, the MAJORITY will be there to follow the visitors!
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| only 4,000 at Wakefield, 1st home game of the season against local opposition. Must have the same issue the Giants and Bradford had when their Season ticket prices went back up, ie no one wants want to/can't afford to pay the full price.
I know the capacity was reduced but that is shockingly low.
Least it will stop the Wildcats fans banging on about how great their crowds are now....
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| TBF Wakey is a bit of an exceptional case at the moment, due to the severe ground restrictions. Without those the attendance would obviously have been significantly bigger, it put a load of people off. I know several of 'em, that normally invariably go.
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| There’s a few factors which I assume affected the Wakefield attendance; firstly season ticket prices have gone back up to a respectable amount, the off season dramas of selling their best players, ground capacity restrictions and then there’s the Thursday night on Sky factor.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"only 4,000 at Wakefield, 1st home game of the season against local opposition. Must have the same issue the Giants and Bradford had when their Season ticket prices went back up, ie no one wants want to/can't afford to pay the full price.
I know the capacity was reduced but that is shockingly low.
Least it will stop the Wildcats fans banging on about how great their crowds are now....'"
The ground only has a 5,500 capacity this season I think.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"only 4,000 at Wakefield, 1st home game of the season against local opposition. Must have the same issue the Giants and Bradford had when their Season ticket prices went back up, ie no one wants want to/can't afford to pay the full price.
I know the capacity was reduced but that is shockingly low.
Least it will stop the Wildcats fans banging on about how great their crowds are now....'"
In mitigation...
Live Premier League Darts was on Sky.
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| Quote ="William Eve"In mitigation...
Live Premier League Darts was on Sky.'"
If you paid more attention in class, William, you'd have known the match itself was on said Sky
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"If you paid more attention in class, William, you'd have known the match itself was on said Sky
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A majority of Super League and Premier League Darts fans share similar demographic profiles (The C2DE range according to the NRS classification) along with their associated boorish, drunken, loudmouth traits, therefore both sports are in direct competition with one another on Thursday evenings as a consequence of Sky Sports scheduling.
C2DE types were presented with the option of paying around £20 to attend the Wakey/Bulls game last night, or they could stay at home, sit in their armchair and watch both on Sky by channel flicking between the two or via Sky Go on a separate device. It is therefore not unreasonable to claim in mitigaton that last night's attendance at Belle Vue may have been adversely affected by the clash of live events.
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| He shoots ...
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"The ground only has a 5,500 capacity this season I think.'"
Which
Make at the 1500 empty seats all the more puzzling. This was a very important game in the greater scheme for both clubs with one of them heading down with London.....
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| Well before we get down about attendances. Leeds and Saints both up on their opening fixtures of last year and corresponding fixtures with the same opposition. So not all doom and gloom.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Well before we get down about attendances. Leeds and Saints both up on their opening fixtures of last year and corresponding fixtures with the same opposition. So not all doom and gloom.'"
saints v hull 2013 att 11257
saints v hull 2014 att 13448
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| It's maybe enough to counter the London attendance, but not London and Wakey's ground restrictions.
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| The 16,164 attendance for the Leeds V Warrington fixture was 4th highest out of 6 meetings during the franchised 14 team, top 8 play-off era.
Leeds V Warrington in 2014: 16,164
Leeds V Warrington in 2013: 15,059
Leeds V Warrington in 2012: 17,120
Leeds V Warrington in 2011: 17,276
Leeds V Warrington in 2010: 16,733
Leeds V Warrington in 2009: 13,386
The 13,448 attendance for the St Helens V Hull fixture was 3rd highest out of 6 meetings during the franchised 14 team, top 8 play-off era.
St Helens V Hull in 2014: 13,448 (Langtree Pk)
St Helens V Hull in 2013: 11,257 (Langtree Pk)
St Helens V Hull in 2012: 14,875 (Langtree Pk)
St Helens V Hull in 2011: 7,053 (Widnes)
St Helens V Hull in 2010: 12,142 (Knowsley Rd)
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| Quote ="William Eve"The 16,164 attendance for the Leeds V Warrington fixture was 4th highest out of 6 meetings during the franchised 14 team, top 8 play-off era.
Leeds V Warrington in 2014: 16,164
Leeds V Warrington in 2013: 15,059
Leeds V Warrington in 2012: 17,120
Leeds V Warrington in 2011: 17,276
Leeds V Warrington in 2010: 16,733
Leeds V Warrington in 2009: 13,386
The 13,448 attendance for the St Helens V Hull fixture was 3rd highest out of 6 meetings during the franchised 14 team, top 8 play-off era.
St Helens V Hull in 2014: 13,448 (Langtree Pk)
St Helens V Hull in 2013: 11,257 (Langtree Pk)
St Helens V Hull in 2012: 14,875 (Langtree Pk)
St Helens V Hull in 2011: 7,053 (Widnes)
St Helens V Hull in 2010: 12,142 (Knowsley Rd)
St Helens V Hull in 2009: 13,684 (Knowsley Rd)'"
Looking at those figures, I'm a tiny bit disappointed with the saints attendance - I was hoping the Steve Prescott events might of been able to push us to challenge for a fixture record, but we were still no where near first season at langtree figures. That said it's still a good rise on the previous years!
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| So we've gone from comparing previous season's attendances to now comparing 6 years' worth.
Talk about constantly moving goal posts to suit agendas. You couldn't make this crap up
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| Leeds/Wire 7% increase on last season.
Saints/Hull 20% increase on last season.
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| Where's the full listing so far? Come on William lift your game or are the attendances not depressing enough for you?
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| Quote ="loiner81"So we've gone from comparing previous season's attendances to now comparing 6 years' worth.
Talk about constantly moving goal posts to suit agendas. You couldn't make this crap up
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In fairness, he hasnt passed comment on them, just provided the information, we will now be entering a new ' era ' with very different ctriteria, so comparisons wont be as relevant until another 3-4 seasons have passed, effectively this season is a ' 1 off ' transition
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Where's the full listing so far? Come on William lift your game or are the attendances not depressing enough for you?'"
I’m afraid he’s retired from being the official statistician this season, looks like he’s just going to put in the odd cameo appearance, however, the thread is still alive & kicking thanks to JonB95 – see OP.
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| Quote ="loiner81"So we've gone from comparing previous season's attendances to now comparing 6 years' worth.
Talk about constantly moving goal posts to suit agendas. You couldn't make this crap up
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Not that anyone did that last year of course...
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Where's the full listing so far? Come on William lift your game or are the attendances not depressing enough for you?'"
Not my attendance thread.
Original attendance thread was locked as a consequence of a resident Moonie overreaction to the Wigan/Hudds opener being over 17% down on the attendance last season.
I'm sure JonB95 will do an excellent job in taking over this season.
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| Quote ="RLBandit"Not that anyone did that last year of course...'"
Indeed.
For every SL round, I compared last season's SL attendances with every other season during the franchised 14 team, top 8 play-off era. How else would we all know that 2013 SL attendances were the lowest during that entire era?
Poor old Smokey's embarrassing claim that 2013 SL attendances would be the 2nd highest ever throughout RL history turned out to be comically misplaced, hence why he has allegedly blocked me (added me to his foe list) ever since.
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| Quote ="William Eve"The 16,164 attendance for the Leeds V Warrington fixture was 4th highest out of 6 meetings during the franchised 14 team, top 8 play-off era.
Leeds V Warrington in 2014: 16,164
Leeds V Warrington in 2013: 15,059
Leeds V Warrington in 2012: 17,120
Leeds V Warrington in 2011: 17,276
Leeds V Warrington in 2010: 16,733
Leeds V Warrington in 2009: 13,386
The 13,448 attendance for the St Helens V Hull fixture was 3rd highest out of 6 meetings during the franchised 14 team, top 8 play-off era.
St Helens V Hull in 2014: 13,448 (Langtree Pk)
St Helens V Hull in 2013: 11,257 (Langtree Pk)
St Helens V Hull in 2012: 14,875 (Langtree Pk)
St Helens V Hull in 2011: 7,053 (Widnes)
St Helens V Hull in 2010: 12,142 (Knowsley Rd)
St Helens V Hull in 2009: 13,684 (Knowsley Rd)'"
I note that you were happy to avoid historical context last year whilst crowds were down, but now you are suddenly far more interested in it since they are rising again.
I will be comparing to last year and last year alone. So far this weekend, 2 of 3 Super League crowds have shown an increase on the same fixture from last season, whilst the World Club Challenge crowd was the largest since the 2009 edition.
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| Quote ="JonB95"I note that you were happy to avoid historical context last year whilst crowds were down, but now you are suddenly far more interested in it since they are rising again.'"
How did I avoid the historical context last year when I included the cumulative attendance totals at the end of each round for every SL season from 2009 onwards?
Quote ="JonB95"I will be comparing to last year and last year alone.'"
That's entirely up to you. If anyone would like further historical context applied to your more limited figures on any particular occasion, they may request them from me.
Quote ="JonB95"So far this weekend, 2 of 3 Super League crowds have shown an increase on the same fixture from last season'"
Which is usually the case in the early rounds as opening fixtures of the season are among the best attended.
Quote ="JonB95"whilst the World Club Challenge crowd was the largest since the 2009 edition.'"
Not sure what relevance an Australian attendance has to Super League attendances but a more like-for-like comparison between WCC attendances in Australia would note that today's attendance of 31,515 was 41.88% lower than the attendance for the Brisbane V Wigan WCC game in 1994 during the pre-SL era.
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