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| Quote ="GansonTheClown"Boo, Huddersfield gone off the boil, was hoping for 100'"
They have reverted to regular season intensity and the teams have leveled out.thats the reality of the gulf between top 4/5 and the rest when it matters.
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| Hulls pathetic performance aside, yet again we have had some very poor video ref decisions.
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| This is all the RFL's fault top 8 is terrible, all the games in the top 5 system were close intense games with no blow outs,
Like in 2000 when the elimination semis were 54-16 and 46-12 and the elimination final was 40-12 and 99 where saints beat Bradford 40-4 in a nail biting elimination semi, who doesn't remember the 44-16 bum squeaker in the 98 elimination final? Or the super intense 44-10 and 37-6 elimination final and final in 01?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"This is all the RFL's fault top 8 is terrible, all the games in the top 5 system were close intense games with no blow outs,
Like in 2000 when the elimination semis were 54-16 and 46-12 and the elimination final was 40-12 and 99 where saints beat Bradford 40-4 in a nail biting elimination semi, who doesn't remember the 44-16 bum squeaker in the 98 elimination final? Or the super intense 44-10 and 37-6 elimination final and final in 01?'"
Comedy gold.
Brilliant, just brilliant.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"This is all the RFL's fault top 8 is terrible, all the games in the top 5 system were close intense games with no blow outs,
Like in 2000 when the elimination semis were 54-16 and 46-12 and the elimination final was 40-12 and 99 where saints beat Bradford 40-4 in a nail biting elimination semi, who doesn't remember the 44-16 bum squeaker in the 98 elimination final? Or the super intense 44-10 and 37-6 elimination final and final in 01?'"
Haha class. In 2001 we hammered Saints in the semi-final and then got hammered by Bradford in the final. RL is unpredictable.
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| I don’t understand how anybody can conclude that this dire Hull performance is a condemnation of the play-off system. Hull haven’t played this bad all season and now in a sudden death game they play terribly; why is this a fault of the play-off’s and not just the fault of a team that played so badly? I know we want competitive play-off games but surely it’s up the teams to front up and actually make that happen . This is the 6th placed team and I can’t see a top 5 play-off system being a silver bullet when the teams need to make the games competitive
The only thing this game tells us is that the Hull team should be embarrassed (I’m I like Hull, one of my favourite teams)
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| I,m a bit dissapointed that any of the teams could not score another 6 points to make it into a great 100 point game.........not.
Yet another season proving a top 8 play off is a disaster for quality and intensity, when are we going to realise the superleague comp is garbage.
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| £10 for adults and 5,547 in attendance
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| Hull were 1 last round victory away from finishing 5th so I don't know why people are thinking it would be all so different if we had 5 instead of 8.
Boo! Hiss! Playoff format!!!
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Hull were 1 last round victory away from finishing 5th so I don't know why people are thinking it would be all so different if we had 5 instead of 8.
Boo! Hiss! Playoff format!!!'"
This play off format is broken for other reasons too.this is just one of them.
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| Quote ="William Eve"£10 for adults and 5,547 in attendance
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Definitely wouldn't happen under top 5, especially on 9th of October 1998.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"This play off format is broken for other reasons too.this is just one of them.'"
It's not a reason though is it, as others have explained the previous smaller formats had thrashing too. Their isn't anything to suggest or prove that we wouldn't have seen a similar performance/shoreline had it been top 5/6.
The biggest problem the playoffs have had is teams not fighting like their lives depended on it. The title is finally within sight and several teams haven't looked interested. And I wouldn't put it down to the 'gulf in teams abilities' because most of the bigger score lines haven't required the winning team to reach top gear, they've just played like they still want to be there next week.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"
The biggest problem the playoffs have had is teams not fighting like their lives depended on it. The title is finally within sight and several teams haven't looked interested. And I wouldn't put it down to the 'gulf in teams abilities' because most of the bigger score lines haven't required the winning team to reach top gear, they've just played like they still want to be there next week.'"
The biggest problem is that the top 8 format has created apathy amongst players and fans.
There are less and less intensity matches in the preliminary 27 rounds and its only perhaps in the last 3 matches of the season there is a bit of effort to ensure teams get into the 2 tiers of 1 to 4 and 5 to 8. Apathy goes into the top 4 as these teams get a second chance, only 1 team from 5 to 8 manage to progress the others can,t raise the intensity in matches.
A top 5 would give more value to the 27 preliminary rounds by the very fact that less teams can proceed to the playoffs. Yes we did have some blow out scores in the earlier top 5 format, but I can,t recall teams playing as we have seen lately................showing little effort, intensity and fight.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Definitely wouldn't happen under top 5, especially on 9th of October 1998.'"
Congratulations to SL 2013 for providing it's second entry into the lowest 5 SL play-off attendances of all time hall of infamy and shame.
[uLowest play-off attendances during SL-era[/u
Wakefield V Catalan in 2009 = 4,008
Huddersfield V Catalan in 2009 = 4,263
=#FF0000Hull V Catalan in 2013 = 4,970 =#FF0000<----- CHEAP £15 ADULT TICKETS ALERT -----
Halifax V St Helens in 1998 = 5,451
=#FF0000Huddersfield V Hull in 2013 = 5,547 =#FF0000<----- CHEAP £10 ADULT TICKETS ALERT -----
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| Quote ="William Eve"Congratulations to SL 2013 for providing it's second entry into the lowest 5 SL play-off attendances of all time hall of infamy and shame.
[uLowest play-off attendances during SL-era[/u
Wakefield V Catalan in 2009 = 4,008
Huddersfield V Catalan in 2009 = 4,263
=#FF0000Hull V Catalan in 2013 = 4,970 =#FF0000<----- CHEAP £15 ADULT TICKETS ALERT -----
Halifax V St Helens in 1998 = 5,451
=#FF0000Huddersfield V Hull in 2013 = 5,547 =#FF0000<----- CHEAP £10 ADULT TICKETS ALERT -----'"
To be fair, the top 3 of those you've listed all have Catalans playing away. It's very tough for Catalans fans to make it over the UK on a week's notice. Tonight's attendance figure is worse than all 3 of those when you put it into perspective as it had 2 English sides in it.
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| Looks like Hull are the common factor to me
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| Quote ="William Eve"Congratulations to SL 2013 for providing it's second entry into the lowest 5 SL play-off attendances of all time hall of infamy and shame.
[uLowest play-off attendances during SL-era[/u
Wakefield V Catalan in 2009 = 4,008
Huddersfield V Catalan in 2009 = 4,263
Hull V Catalan in 2013 = 4,970
Halifax V St Helens in 1998 = 5,451
Huddersfield V Hull in 2013 = 5,547'"
Yes, get in – still top .
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| hey,i just had a thought.
maybe this scoreline occurred because one team ( Huddersfield) were on fire and blew their opponents away?
but then I realised its Huddersfield so it must be other things that enabled this scoreline not the fact that a team played so much better than the opposition
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| Quote ="William Eve"Congratulations to SL 2013 for providing it's second entry into the lowest 5 SL play-off attendances of all time hall of infamy and shame.
[uLowest play-off attendances during SL-era[/u
Wakefield V Catalan in 2009 = 4,008
Huddersfield V Catalan in 2009 = 4,263
=#FF0000Hull V Catalan in 2013 = 4,970 =#FF0000<----- CHEAP £15 ADULT TICKETS ALERT -----
Halifax V St Helens in 1998 = 5,451
=#FF0000Huddersfield V Hull in 2013 = 5,547 =#FF0000<----- CHEAP £10 ADULT TICKETS ALERT -----'" the top 5 system only had one game that wasn't one of Leeds, Bradford, saints or Wigan at home. It's attendance was lower than tonight's game.
The average points differences under the top 5 system was higher than top 6 and higher than 2009 and 2010 under the top 8 system, in fact the difference in average points difference between the completed top 8 and top 5 systems is a massive, huge, unbelievable 0.5points per game.
The games in the top 5 system also had more points per game scored of all the systems. That would be down to the incredibly intense defences needed to win games back the I guess.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"The biggest problem is that the top 8 format has created apathy amongst players and fans.
There are less and less intensity matches in the preliminary 27 rounds and its only perhaps in the last 3 matches of the season there is a bit of effort to ensure teams get into the 2 tiers of 1 to 4 and 5 to 8. Apathy goes into the top 4 as these teams get a second chance, only 1 team from 5 to 8 manage to progress the others can,t raise the intensity in matches.
A top 5 would give more value to the 27 preliminary rounds by the very fact that less teams can proceed to the playoffs. Yes we did have some blow out scores in the earlier top 5 format, but I can,t recall teams playing as we have seen lately................showing little effort, intensity and fight.'"
Got it in one
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| Quote ="scarrie"He's not suggesting it played any factor in us losing, you do realise that right?
Just highlighting the fact that the video ref got a pretty clear call wrong again.'"
A bit like Ganson then .
As with many other things it’s a swings & roundabouts game, to even mention it as some sort of caveat is very funny in the concept of the game.
The team should hang their heads in shame.
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