|
 |
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 9101 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2006 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="vastman"Jeez how blinkered can you get - TRY AND UNDERSTAND - he did Bailey more than any other player because Bailey was the one doing it as he always is!!!!'"
Attempting irony? |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 3174 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2016 | Nov 2016 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="wrencat1873"Tbf, the Wigan game was a foregone conclusion and it will take time for Salford to settle, even when they have all of their new squad together.
However, Hull fans will be really disappointed with being well beaten by Leeds. So much expectation and comfortably beaten.
It is only round 1 though.
The 2 attendances last night were at opposite ends of the scale.
Just over 15,000 at Leeds but, only just over 5000 at Salford and this was against one of their best supported "local" rivals.
Is this because of lack of ST sales prior to the start of the season or apathy towards the game ?'"
Salford's Home Tickets only went on sale 2 days before the game.
no season passes or season ticket info has been released yet .
so 5,383 at such short notice wasn't bad . Especially considering the chances of the Home team making it a contest were slim .
Salford looked like the team thrown together without a pre season , yet only went in 0-16 at the half , Despite fielding Wigan's Jack Murphy at fullback who took 30 mins to remember he was playing for the home side. 
Leeds- Hull Game was televised, that would have knocked 3-4K off the attendance. and was close for 60 minutes until Hull got tired from having to run around on all that grass...
early season fixtures are usually unpredictable with a few lop-sided scorelines . but so is the NRL:-
Canterbury 30 St George Illawarra 4
Sydney 0 Penrith 18
Gold Coast Titans 6 Melbourne 30
North Qnsland 42 Parramatta 6
Parramatta 6 Penrith 39
Warriors 26 Gold Coast Titans 6
Melbourne 44 Sydney 4
All taken from the 1st 4 rounds of 2012 |
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 11412 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Sep 2010 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2021 | Jul 2019 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="NtW"Why do you assume you would draft players at 20-ish, like in the US? Obviously you would draft before they go to a SL club's junior squads.
Increasing the number of junior players wouldn't level things up-the best would still gravitate to the top clubs. As long as the top clubs attract the best juniors and biggest fan base they will stay at the top, regardless of the cap.
For me, there's too much inertia in league placings. We need to look at how to solve the causes of this. A draft might be one option.'"
So you want to draft players aound the age of 15-16 then? Example, at that age a talented 15 year old from Yorkshire is drafted by Catalans or London, is this teenager meant to move down south or abroad at that age?
Some players have done it in their junior development (Sinfield from Oldham joined Leeds) but for many the possibility of perhaps a Hull youngster having to travel to Warrington/Saints won't be suitable. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 11412 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Sep 2010 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2021 | Jul 2019 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
So because of last night's 1st Round scorelines that means the whole season is going to be same old same old?
Hull drew with Wire and Hudds beat Wigan away to start last year.
2 years ago Wire lost to Hudds at the Magic Weekend opener, Quins also beat Catalans and Crusaders racked up a 42-12 win over Salford.
Neither round a true indicator of how the season would go.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 36144 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Clearwing"Attempting irony?'"
Attempting irony?? |
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 11412 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Sep 2010 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2021 | Jul 2019 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
From 2006 - 2012
1st Round average winning margins
SL = 12.3 pts
NRL = 11.7 pts
The 58-0 thrashing that Wire gave Quins in 2010 proving to be the real difference maker.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1419 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2008 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2014 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Same old Huddersfield starting the season really well again.  Fielden and Kopzcack looking like a good starting front row at the moment,good pickups! |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 4142 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| May 2017 | May 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Same old same old terrible commentary
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Owner | 4250 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2004 | 21 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2025 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| was it a Saints fan that started this thread? |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 12425 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2005 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Rommel"Same Old Hull always the team shouting from the hill tops but can't compete with the Top Teams
Await's the Ellis injury excuse and the new ball excuse?'"
Awaits your excuse also. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 7588 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
LOL, that was hilarious.
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1419 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2008 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2014 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Hohaia must rival Slater in the 08 WC Final for sheer stupidity! |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 3098 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2005 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
same old huddersfield start well again. expexted more from saints though. same old at wire tomorrow i bet, other 3 games should be pretty close tomorrow though.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 7588 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Super standards of refereeing again then...
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 4938 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2018 | Mar 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Winning coasting margins of 30, 36 and 42 points so far.
It is to be hoped there's a significant competitive improvement in the rest of the fixtures this round.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 4649 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2010 | 15 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
I'll give Nathan Clown until Easter for his P45.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 4246 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Saddened!"Despite the relatively high standard of the play tonight, did the scorelines just bore everyone else to sleep? Leeds hammering Hull and Wigan demolishing Salford, who look pretty much odds on to struggle for a win this season.
Why is there none of the unpredictability that there is in the NRL?'"
Too easy!
PMSL |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 530 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Sep 2012 | 12 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2021 | Feb 2020 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="EL CAMO"Quote ="NtW"Why do you assume you would draft players at 20-ish, like in the US? Obviously you would draft before they go to a SL club's junior squads.
Increasing the number of junior players wouldn't level things up-the best would still gravitate to the top clubs. As long as the top clubs attract the best juniors and biggest fan base they will stay at the top, regardless of the cap.
For me, there's too much inertia in league placings. We need to look at how to solve the causes of this. A draft might be one option.'"
So what about the players that came into their own after the age of 15?
Are they cast aside because they missed the draft that possibly happened before they'd ever played a game?'"
They'd be free agents, available to be picked up by any club. The point is that the majority of players get picked up young by clubs, but the best kids gravitate to the top sides.
These are just my musings on the matter. Maybe it's being looked at, or been looked at already. Maybe other people don't think it's an issue. But in 17 years of SL we've had 4 champs, and only 6 in the GF (or 7 in the top 2 in the league table). I don't think that's good enough, and I'm offering my thoughts as to something I think could help change that.
A draft may well not work (the NSWRL tried it in the early 80s and it flopped), but it could be something worth considering. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1421 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2007 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2014 | Nov 2014 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Didn't expect that, how good were Huddersfield?  How bad were Saints?  How did Silvewood not see George kick that ball? Early contender for decision of the season |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 11644 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1421 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2007 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2014 | Nov 2014 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="number 6"hardly a gamebreaker!
'"
Did I suggest it was? Just a very bad call. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Board Member | 6734 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2003 | 22 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2021 | Jun 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Rommel"Same Old Hull always the team shouting from the hill tops but can't compete with the Top Teams
Await's the Ellis injury excuse and the new ball excuse?'"
sometimes its best to see how your own team get on first before you come on here spouting your usual rubbish
how was the new ball by the way  |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 215 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2014 | Mar 2014 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="NtW"Whoa, there. There is way too much sense in that post-it seems you understand the game.
Don't you mean to blame players for throwing in the towel when it goes wrong? Or referees for seeming to favour one side?
In seriousness, your post hits the nail on the head-we have an issue with 'certainty of outcome' in the sport, and upsets are harder to come by (in football, bag a dull draw with Utd, and your got a 'good result). It means we need to work harder to have a better spread of talent, and allow this years struggling clubs to be better next year.
We need to realise the salary cap doesn't do this and I'm starting to bang drum for a draft system.'"
The Championships have the bonus point system to reward effort at keeping the score close despite a probable loss. Maybe the SL should trial it also in an effort to keep closer scorelines. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 4961 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jun 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2024 | Feb 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="keighley1"The Championships have the bonus point system to reward effort at keeping the score close despite a probable loss. Maybe the SL should trial it also in an effort to keep closer scorelines.'"
Professional pride should be enough, I don't think it's an issue. The game goes through phases and will evolve naturally, without the need for changing the rules every two minutes. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Board Member | 28736 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2003 | 22 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2016 | Mar 2016 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Professional pride should be enough, I don't think it's an issue. The game goes through phases and will evolve naturally, without the need for changing the rules every two minutes.'"
But the rules were already changed. Just for the benefit of the championship, and it does work quite well I think. |
|
|
|
|
|
Fielden and Kopzcack looking like a good starting front row at the moment,good pickups!
How bad were Saints? 
How did Silvewood not see George kick that ball? Early contender for decision of the season 
