No I'm not suggesting that. That's both a ridiculous idea and a ridiculous assumption to make based on my post.

Point out where I am suggesting that or apologise, bugman, for knee jerking so badly.

So what are you suggesting? , would whoever didnt play SL opposition be playing for points?

If not then how could it work?

So instead of jumping to conclusions now you dare to ask questions before you jump to stupid conclusions! Thankyou sir, for your patience in this matter.

Heaven forbid anyone inquire the time in your presence. You would surely reply "So you plan on setting off a bomb and you dare ask me for the time!?" Wait until you have even the smallest fragment of truth before you take it to the absurd.

I'm suggesting that like it or not we may be forced to be short of a Super League club in 2012 and therefore when the magic weekend comes around, we would in that case be short of a club to even things up. These are facts. It might not happen but Salford are not fulfilling fixtures as it stands so it very well could.

This means one club, namely, my own, will find themselves out of an opponent for one of the biggest days of the year. This, again, is a distinct possibility at this stage. Therefore, I came up with the idea that they play a friendly representative game rather than be put in the distinct disadvantage of not having a game at all.

A friendly. I am not sure you have heard of them but they work without points.

It's not an ideal situation to find ourselves in but that's the point isn't it?

So no, there will be no points up for grabs. Where you got that idea from is beyond me as I never implied it. And you've repeated it twice now even though I clarified in my last post that this would not be the case.

So you are suggesting that a SL club would play a season with 2 less points available to it than the rest of the clubs?

No. Like I said in the earlier post of mine, there would obviously be a bye round.

Do the maths, it doesnt work

It doesnt work for each team to have a round where instead of playing salford they play nobody?

Seems to work elsewhere!

Not in this context it doesn't.

No it doesnt, odd number of teams and odd number of games doesnt work, do the maths

10 minutes Chris, have you sussed the flaw in your cunning plan yet?

It is late to be fair...

No they didn’t.

After the initial loan, which Bradford failed to pay back a penny piece, they then gave them some more cash & took the lease off Bradford’s hands.

The biggest conundrum is why are Bradford receiving less Sky monies for the next two years?

I would hazard a guess that in two years time Bradford will hold the lease once again & the other clubs have received a bonus payment for their complicity.

You’re right, the two situations are very different, Bradford had a tangible asset to bargain with, and Salford have got sod all.

Bradford's then owners were quoted as saying that the RFL had basically taken back the cash they'd been given for the lease, as repayment for the loan they never paid back. I don't have full details but it sounds like one at least of the sums advanced was taken away prior to administration.


Isn't this repayment for the SL monies advanced to pay wages?


I guess we'll see, but I don't think that's what the deduction of Sky monies is for.


We're also at two different parts of the season.

The RFL lent Bradford a substantial amount of cash in the off-season on the quiet. When they realised no repayments were been made they then came out with the legendary statement about saving the “Iconic” stadium from charlatans, by stumping up some more cash and taking over the lease.




Nobody knows the truth, however, the amount being withheld from Bradford equates to the amount it cost the RFL to purchase it – I’ll draw my own conclusions.



Allegedly, the rest of the clubs are in receipt of extra Sky monies, which also equates to the amount being withheld from Bradford, it’s funny how all the clubs went along with the RFL’s grand plan back in the summer, without the prospect of a sweetener.




I appreciate that, however, we are in the middle of a licensing period, the connotations of removing one club from the competition even before that season begins is a logistical nightmare.

www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 294vr.html Salford City Pirates?

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Lol, maybe Holdsworth will return given he is a Perth lad.

I think we might struggle to convince our lads to leave the sunniest city in the world to play in one of the glummiest!

How many times are you going to have to battle with this conundrum? They should pose this as a GCSE question.

Got to say I was surprised that ' Dalton ' didnt check first

, Id have expected more from him

Yeah, but he is a Widnes lad to be fair

This has added some amusement to an otherwise mundane evening!

I merely posed a problem which we could very still encounter and some bitter "I don't care about this or that I just spend my life on here" fool took me off on a largely irrelevant points tangeant and got me worked up.

You can all score your petty victory if you want, fact remains that if Salford can't start the season we will have this problem. It's hardly my fault the RFL introduced this ludicrously unfair system of one extra game for points which is largely dependent on the opponents you get. I forgot they had been so stupid. Whoopee.

Potential problem: Salford don't start the season.

Meaning: We need a bye round. We will also have an odd team (mine) at Magic Weekend with no fixture and a disadvantage.

I offered a potential solution. Any others? No?

If the worst did happen and we were forced to run with a 13 team SL for this year then surely the most sensible thing to do with the Magic Weekend would be to play the last 16 of the Challenge Cup at that event (offering those who have already bought tickets the option of a refund if they no longer want to attend). That way there are still competitive games played over the two days. No team should be either denied the opportunity to gain league points or be gifted the points due to no longer having an opponent. Playing cup matches means that the points related problem would be removed and the event wouldn't be a set of pointless friendlies that would likely end up as under 19s games.

Though hopefully there will be no need for such a rearrangement as Salford will survive.

No you didnt, you just didnt think it through, even when given the opportunity to ,the solution is that Salford get supported through the next 2 seasons until the structure of SL can be re assessed

Hope your not saying the rfl should pay for them, for the next 2 seasons?

You couldn't switch it between comps like that as the BBC have primary CC rights and would be unlikely to be able to change coverage to that date whilst Sky, the game's primary sponsors, would undoubtedly be less than impressed.